The club versus country debate just acquired a new meaning on Planet Fitba.
Now the people at the head of the SFA have a decision to make that they never thought that they would even have to consider.
There is a hierarchy of needs when it comes to the affairs of professional football.
The country always comes first.
FIFA will expect the SFA to uphold the writ of Planet Football.
In taking their association to court Rangers transgressed massively in the eyes of FIFA.
The world governing body will expect swift and sever retribution.
However, those FIFA boys don’t grasp that we are discussing “the Rangers” and that rules in Scotland are just really for all the other clubs.
Of course one of the people discussing this shambles should be enjoying this fine gardening weather.
The fact that Campbell Ogilvie is still in the building tells you all you need to know about the SFA.
If people in the blue half of Glasgow think this is a massive victory for their disgraced club I have a one word riposte:
“Sion”.
budbhoy
For me Lord Carloway’s intelligence was not in doubt.
Neither is Integrity within Scottish Football
30th May Result Govan Thiefs 6 SPL Integrity 0 (1st leg)
2nd leg coming soon when all clubs vote for Newco Theifs free passage into the SPL.
Will this be when CFC loudly speak up for integrity – Bated breath!
May 30, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Frankier
budbhoy – I have been thinking along the same lines as yourself. Lord Carloway surely wasn’t stupid enough to not notice that the SFA had dished out a sentence that didn’t even exist within their own wee rule book. I am totally convinced that it was a fly wee `deliberate mistake` on his part to open up a loophole that they could crawl into like snakes and try an escape. I wonder what Vincent Lunny is doing at the moment.
May 30, 2012 at 11:05 am
Phil Mac Giolla Bhain
That you would even consider that Lord Carloway to be stupid is evidence of,perhaps, a lack of cleverness on your part…
May 30, 2012 at 11:22 am
Tim
Really,really scunnered myself with all the nonsense.The powers that be must take severe action now.They could have just taken their medicine but no,not them! The only suitable punishment for the crime is expulsion.Their actions could now have implications for all of us if Uefa sanction the whole of scottish football.But do they care?? Aye right. They are simply a DISGRACE!!!
May 30, 2012 at 11:03 am
Agent One
Hi All
I think we should all agree that Phil should send a E-mail to F.I.F.A and U.E.F.A about all our concerns regarding Glasgow Rangers, The SPL and The SFA as yesterday FIFA said that The SFA had not made them aware that a Member Club were taking them to a Civil Court, then maybe they have forgotten to Mention the Dual Contract situation ,that should be punished with nothing other than Total Termination of Glasgow Rangers from ALL levels of Professional Football
No more messing about Football Fans of all Clubs in Scotland,they have Openly broken all the rules and regulations of Football,Financial and Business Law they sit and Blame everyone else , they talk of receiving Punishment and harsh treatment for the sins of others
Sorry but they deserve everything that has come their way and that will come their way,we set rules and regulations to acquire standards in life and when we fall below these standards then we have to face the consequences so its time to face them.
Phil go get them with the blessing of all Scottish Football Fans
To Be continued
Agent one
May 30, 2012 at 10:51 am
AndyBhoy
The operation was a success but the patient died.
May 30, 2012 at 10:47 am
John Burns
This is the defining moment, both in football terms and in business terms for Rangers.
All is now out in the open, there is no hiding place.
The SFA must make a clear and unequivocal decision NOW.
HMRC must see through this ‘scam’ CVA, which has been drawn up and designed to fail, and now really go after Rangers’ assets. Ticketus will most probably accept the CVA, as they are more concentrated on court action against Whyte and will use the CVA, even when it fails, to back up their court claim, that they took all measures to mitigate the loss.
Finally, on another point. I am some times taken to task on this forum by, and I make no excuse for it, my assertion that an independent Scotland would do our ‘kind’ no favours.
Let me refer you to George Galloway’s piece in the DR today – quote:
“And when things get worse in our country as a result, in time we’d look around for someone to blame.
Who knows who the finger of suspicion would be pointed at? Maybe Scottish Roman Catholics from Irish immigrant stock, with their peculiar ways, names and schools. Why not? It’s happened before, Comrade Canavan, hasn’t it? I am not a “Unionist”, I don’t think they’d accept me into that club”
May 30, 2012 at 10:25 am
Son_Of_Sion
Got to love these guys, even when they win they lose.
It’s enough to get me going back to the the other big house.
May 30, 2012 at 10:05 am
Fisiani
Tis now 30th May and the saga rolls on. August 4th the new season begins. 66 days away.
Will creditors accept 2p in the pound? No way
Is the creditors meeting confirmed in 14 days? I have only heard of a Proposal to have a CVA and yet not a definitive CVA offer since there are 47 TBC still to be confirmed to propose a CVA.
May 30, 2012 at 9:12 am
Mark Reilly
The SFA face the nuclear option here, they must punish RFC severely with likely outcome, RFC in present form will cease to exist. Otherwise, FIFA punish the SFA and Scottish Football as a whole. No International football or European football. At that point I would predict civil war in the Scottish Football world with countless rounds of litigation.
Wonder how Peter Lawell will feel if Celtic are banned from playing in Europe because of RFCs arrogance and blatant disregard for all of Scottish Football!
Either way RFC cease to exist! Simples! Easy decision there to be made.
I would ask Mr Regan to grow a set and do what he knows is the right thing to do!
As you say Phil in earlier posts, the big and only winners in this are D&P, to the tune of £5.5 mill! Agendas????
May 30, 2012 at 7:36 am
Kevin
Phil,
2 weeks ago you said:
“In the weeks ahead Rangers football club will publically disintegrate from a myriad of self-inflicted wounds.” (Justice Served, 17/5/12)
After yesterday’s judgement at the Court of Session, could this be it?
May 30, 2012 at 7:21 am
Phil Mac Giolla Bhain
Their “victory” in the Court of Session is of the Phyrric nature for sure…
May 30, 2012 at 9:55 am
granardbhoy
I doubt the FIFA officals will understand the funny handshakes and the goat out the back grazing when they arrive over.
May 30, 2012 at 1:54 am
Martin
On FIFA website, under associations, Scotland .
Referee Coordinator DALLAS Hugh,
How current is FIFA’s information on Scotland
May 30, 2012 at 1:50 am
Jim
Creditors might only recieve 9p in the pound from Racist FC. Those poor wee souls in the flower shop. Let’s have a whip-round to reimburse them.
May 29, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Jim
T’was pile inducing to hear sports pundits talking tonight about dire consequences if RFC get liquadated.
During their fire and brimstone oratory, Sour David and Craig Whyte continued to be the hate figures. No mention of something far more sinister…the fans of RFC…a dark, morose, loveless set of creatures…who have been spewing out hate speech/chants for a century.
May 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm
budbhoy
Phil
I am not so sure this wasn’t a victory for Scotland’s bigots.
The SFA have always been part and parcel of what some refer to as the “establishment” – not a term I favour because it appears to give them an undue air of respect when they are all just blindly pro protestantism and largely, a shower of the most bigotted, and abhorrent people.
All the main powers in Scotland will always do all they can to look after their blue trash. Surely we all know this by now?
I can just hear the arseholes who call themselves the SFA making the initial judgment, (and someone in Lord Carloways postion didn’t know the punishment was not enforceable? Aye right!) –
“Our (SFA) rules say we should throw out our beloved disease ridden Fc, but obviously we cant do that. So lets give them a punishment outwith our jurisdiction which will be quickly quashed in the court of session. Then we can say that at least we tried and our prodigal club survive relativeley unscathed – the MSM will be right behind us and our Toxic Theifs FC as always. Most footballing types are too gullable to see through this, and most of those who will see through it will be the taigs and they dont matter anyway.”
I can’t see Uefa or Fifa giving a flying f*ck about our insignificant xenophobic little nation.
Govan Thiefs 1 – SFA’s Integrity 0 (after extra time)
Next round
Thiefs Vs SPL’s Integrity
Any takers for punt on an SPL knockout? No Didn’t think so.
Thiefs Newco red hot favourites to enter SPL, sanction free, with all of MSM etc. claiming their splendid history all intact.
ps I know it should be thieves but Thiefs suits them better.
May 29, 2012 at 11:31 pm
Stiv
Been quitetly watching this drama from afar, all i will comment on is that the blame will be wrongly placed at EUFA and FIFA’s door when the Scotish National team are barred from participating in international games.
A big thanks to the SFA for killing the joint bid for Ireland/Wales/Scotland holding the Euros. That is the shame here Platini and Blatter will demand their pound of flesh for the bold face cheek that was the court case. Potentially say goodbye to the homenations as seperate entities in world football, say goodbye to the money as the CL & EuroCup places are stripped from Scottish Football. Ogilvie turn ou the lights on the way out will you, well blow out the candle i wouldn’t be surprised if the leccy gets cut off before the end.
May 29, 2012 at 11:12 pm
JimBhoy
They say £8.4 mill to a cva as the loan and £100k as prefered status but take out what D&P will be owed when this debacle is over and what the running costs are thru june and july and you will see fek all for creditors. D&P hang your head in shame..!
The only benefit to creditors is a proper asset sale and liquidation raising a much larger amount even according to Green so do the maths….
D&P will own part of Rangers as will Green and Rangers will have nothing except two landlords eager to make a buck for many years to come, if/when they get a license to play football and get some players in, ‘cos they will go asap to the highest bidder. Fire sale at Ibrox thru the Summer all proceed to D&P/Green… Doomsday! Moral of the story do not sell out to vulture capitalists…
I feel no remorse for this club or fans any more, if you read the majority of blogs from so called Rangers fans they are rejoicing at being saved from crippling debt, obligation and persecution… And gonna enjoy a flag day next week, such irony… A Morally dead peepul I have no sympathy for…
May 29, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Skutanoust
Why did you do it?, Have you not the guts to pay?
You can’t face liquidation and you won’t get a CVA
Like Jim Farry and Dougie, Dougie
Your lies are well renowned
But you would murder Scottish football
Just to keep your putrid history around
May 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Ryan O'Neill
This might be a really wild idea but the more this charade goes on I get the feeling that all parties: SFA/SPL/D&P/ Green Brigade (couldn’t resist) all know that they are dead and are just daring each other to strike the fatal blow as they don’t want to face the inevitable backlash.
Maybe we could help fat Sally out before he starts asking:
There are two T’s in Blatter!!!!
May 29, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Sean MacFhearadhaigh
The SFA are stupid, but I’m not convinced they’re THAT stupid.
If the SFA are stupid enough to fail to punish RFC(IA) it will give FIFA the excuse to finally remove the anomaly of the ‘Home countries’ who have no right to exist as separate footballing entities. In a wider context, FIFA expel the SFA, and thus end Catalunya’s claim for equal status. There are 6 or 7 first pick spanish internationals who’d be eligible to play for Catalunya if they ever won their fight to get what the SFA thinks is a god- given right.
May 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm
Corky
FIFA have advised SFA to give RFC further punishment for taking SFA to court of session instead of court of sporting arbitration. Now, things could get very interesting! Surely to god, FIFA applying the squeeze should ensure the proper outcome.
May 29, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Cabey
Oh the irony of one corrupt organisation meting out the ultimate sanction to another corrupt organisation. The SFA have to stick by their original decision and then when it’s challenged again, Mr Blatter steps in a la Sion…
May 29, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Pensionerbhoy
Take a bow, Sam Stone. You have nailed it. Money talks and decent supporters all over the country must make it talk for them. It is better to lose a little for a while than to lose the lot for ever. That is the road Scotland could very easily go down if that club and those who would sacrifice anyone or anything to try to save it are given sway or probably more likely, go their way.
H H
May 29, 2012 at 10:12 pm
dombhoy67
This current situation will tell us all we need to know about how deep the ‘brotherhood’ stuff goes. If UEFA/FIFA don’t act and ensure that this level of corruption unprecedented in Scottish footballing history is not severely punished in a way that is appropriate then the game really is up and a marker will have been put down for any other deluded souls out there who think that Rangers* will ever be measured by the same rules as all the rest of European football. Their name will be forever a euphemism for sacrosanct and corruption. After all what has to be done by the SFA is not complicated even if they are trying to make it appear so. Its quite simple. SUSPEND THEM FOR FIVE YEARS THEN LET THEM RE APPLY TO THE THIRD DIVISION. ANYTHING LESS IS CORRUPTION.
May 29, 2012 at 9:35 pm
tizwalt
It seems to be a coincidence at rankers that we have GREEN after WHYTE needing GOLD.
May 29, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Micky burt
A slow slow death with D & P bleeding them dry ihope and pray this is the end game.
KTF
May 29, 2012 at 8:34 pm
frank
hi phil i have been like so many others been following you on the internet on the manky mob but let me say this story is not just about them going bust this is about them telling us remember where you live we are the people no surrender
May 29, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Joe Hacker
The problem re Sion is that FIFA actually had some leverage over the Swiss FA…Switzlerland banned from international football? Wel, they had something to lose. But Scotland? How would that be punishment when they don’t seem to compete most of the time anyway…
May 29, 2012 at 8:26 pm
timtim
Campbell Ogilvie bad , Fifa good .
May 29, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Tecumseh
Can Scotland get anything right . . ???
Can’t do trams for Edinburgh . . .cant do football . . .diddy politicians like Wee Eek . . .and is it mince still for tea . . ???
f@ck sake what a hole.
May 29, 2012 at 7:45 pm
Tallybhoy
Coming over to ‘the best little bigotted country in the world’ tomorrow for three weeks. Can’t wait! Want to be there when FIFA DEMAND that the SFA punish RFC(ia) for having the temerity to go to a civil court to have sanctions against them lifted. Plans have also been put in place to have a party when RFC(IA) die!
HH!!
May 29, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Aidan
It is obvious what is going on. D&P want Rangers chucked out, they are making Rankers as poisonous a proposition as possible, this does the dirty job for them and brings the inevitable liquidation and a Newco closer.
May 29, 2012 at 7:21 pm
Kerry girl
S.F.A l expect that will turn out to be their punishment for non payment of tax ,non payment paye.non payment of gate monies owed to other clubs ,the blatant flaunting of rules with regard to the dual contracts the selling on of jelly bits whilst still owing his previous club money, going into administration ,the list goes , and they cry foul over restrictive work practices,? One of the dark arts that they themselves not only indulged in but gorged on for 120 glorious years oh! The irony
May 29, 2012 at 7:21 pm
tambutnotbam
The BBC have just reported that our SFA have failed to inform FIFA that Rangers(IA) have taken legal action against the SFA.
I am not saying that FIFA did not know regardless but the point is it was the SFA`s duty to inform FIFA that a participating club was in the process taking legal action against Scottish Footballs Governing body.
For whatever reason, the SFA consciously and deliberately failed in their duty when they point blank refused to keep FIFA officially informed.
May 29, 2012 at 7:12 pm
Thecastings
At last UEFA and FIFA finally have to get involved.
Even if the panel reverted to a lower punishment such as a fine or SC expulsion the SFA will have to take them to task for breaking UEFA rules.
The rangers are even thicker than I thought.
May 29, 2012 at 7:09 pm
joe burt
Was it not the case that the tribunal who gave the player ban thought about expeling them but opted for the signing embargo instead.Surely now if the verdict is to be revisited the sanction is expulsion now.
Im in Abu Dhabi and have other expats and locals asking me why they havnt been closed down by now,4000 miles away and people are amased and bemused that somehow the rules do not apply to them.
It really is becoming an embarasement any expat huns here now no longer mention football or will not admit to being from tha dark side.
Good work Phil.
May 29, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Stevebhoy
I can’t help but notice that this coincides with the CVA, which states that they must be in all competitions, or else Green gets to liquidate and buy the club for about 5 million. Wonder if the SFA will olige. Whaddaya say, Campbell?
May 29, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Iain
that’s FIFA finally getting involved.
Prior to the court’s decision, the world governing body Fifa said: “Fifa will ask the member association (SFA) to take action so that the club withdraws its request from the ordinary courts.
“Fifa will closely monitor the situation so that the issue is resolved as fast as possible.”
May 29, 2012 at 7:02 pm
des
surely the creditors will look at the size of the cva pot then look at the bill for duff and phelps and reliese they have been stitched up and if & WHEN fifa get involved there wont be a rankers fc & no pot to piss in {pun intended }
May 29, 2012 at 6:50 pm
eddie cantwell
After listening to your interview on btw today while heading south to Haydock , I think I’m understanding some of your cryptic lines . I think the ranjers are fucked Phil , did FIFA not threaten to expel the swiss national team if sion weren’t reminded who’s in charge of football , clocks ticking
May 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm
The Wallace
Dear Phil,
are these people mad? They were given the lesser of three evils, take fine/sanctions or be suspended or even expelled. Now their hubris has brought the whole of Scottish football into international danger.
The SFA threw out the rule book to help these morons in a severe but sympathetic manner to help keep revenue coming into Rangers through SPL football, but this is not good enough.
The SFA must find the rule book and throw it good and hard. No less than Scottish football is at serious risk if UEFA or even FIFA have to get themselves involved.
Even the SPL suck up clubs must realise the precarious situation that Rangers going to the courts has left everyone in. It’s like something out of ‘Dr Strangelove’ mutually assured destruction.
If they are going down or out they hope to inflict as much damage as possible.
We are now in a scenario where no Scots clubs will get the lucrative European games, no International football. Let’s hope the SFA start using the big stick,
Hail, Hail.
May 29, 2012 at 6:39 pm
Bellbhoy1968
Duff and duffer £5.5 million ? I smell a rat .
May 29, 2012 at 6:38 pm
jim wood
Apparently RFC fans have had a good day today.
Superficially this would look correct. The CVA process looks to have begun, and the winning of the COS hearing combined with the subsequent positive media attention/spin will give cause for hope in the blue households of the city.
But what does all this mean? Nothing has really changed except maybe for the selling of RFC season tickets, which I think is the only thing that today affects.
The CVA will fail. The big tax case will be upheld or appealed even if lost by HMRC. The history will be gone and perhaps most importantly a big light will be shone on a wee racist corner of the globe, the most telling of all outcomes ( in my opinion) Fifa and Uefa will have a deep look and the SFA will have to account for their reluctance. So fellow Celts do not panic. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
Keep at them Phil they don’t yet know what they have just done. Soon however… …
May 29, 2012 at 6:36 pm
262 KubN
They (SFA & Hunz) don’t think it’s over, but is now or very shortly. Hell slap it intae them!
May 29, 2012 at 6:31 pm
Frankier
Its about time Peter Lawwell was starting to get involved here. If Celtic are destined to go down the sh!tpan alongside this horrible mob then he surely must not only be entitled to HAVE a say but also to actually have the guts to say something.
May 29, 2012 at 6:25 pm
brianbhoy
The only time they’ve been brought into line ie “we’ll sign one if we find one good enough”, was when the threat from uefa was there. They think, quite rightly so, that they are beyond reproach in Scotland. Time will tell.
May 29, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Dhougal
The cry was just surrender
surrender coz your dead
with EBTs and all the rest
a Newco at the best
Craig Whyte and all his funny men
came in and stripped the bears
with a crash,bang,wallop it was gone
now all thats left is tears…………of laughter
Hail Hail the Celts are here
What the hell do we care now GBPMcB
May 29, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Jamesy-Bhoy
Phil, surely this will become THE definition of a Pyrrhic Victory?
I’m in Manchester for a few days but can already imagine “rapeepul” back home all puff chested in triumphalist mode, it is nearly the marching season afer all!
By the time they realise the massive own goal they have scored it will be too late.
The irony of “Mr what school did you go to?” still being around as the establishment club are expelled from competition, or even competitions by FIFA is delicious!
The lame arguments about the survival of Busted Flush FC that have been hawked around every available phone in and MSM column inch by “the powers that be” and succlulent lamb brigade are now even more redundant and baseless than before.
No one can possibly argue that there even is a greater good to be served if it comes at the expense of the national teams participation in the qualification phases of major tournaments.
Rangers in Administration – the gift that just keeps on giving!
May 29, 2012 at 6:11 pm
jimCB
Just read that the transfer ban has been deemed unlawful. The problem though for RFC is that it could open pandora’s box if fifa get involved and if their punishment is then decided out of Scotland. We can only hope.Anyway the ebt scandal should really KO them you would think but Im sure there’ll be twists and turns to come.
May 29, 2012 at 6:06 pm
greenallover
If the SFA do not impose the ultimate in sanctions then this country,in football terms, will die a slow lingering death.The only good thing to come out of this is that the SFA will have UEFA on their back,the last thing they want given the scandalous Ogilvie situation.Rumours abound in Glasgow that Mr Lawell has a “nuclear option” should justice not be done.With any luck you might have heard something Phil?
May 29, 2012 at 6:06 pm
Paul Cronie
Yet again Rangers manage to get a ruling in their favour. Just like all the football matches that go their way. Let’s get FIFA and UEFA involved just like they got involved in the Sion saga.
May 29, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Damianmc
Sadly I can’t see the SFA taking any meaningful action. I just don’t believe that they have the guts to take serious sanctions against rangers, despite Fifa rules. The most I expect is exclusion from the Scottish Cup and the £160,000 fine already imposed.
May 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm
john
Cant believe the judge bounced this back to the SFA… I like others are hopeful now that FIFA and UEFA are starting to fingerpoint and instruct… it may well come down to either expel the tax dodgers or we will expel your countries membership
May 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm
sam stone
The judge did the right thing, it was up to the SFA to do the right thing in the first place, whether it was through fear or favour that they refrained from taking that decision is another matter. However I can’t wait to see the outcome. Let the fun begin.
May 29, 2012 at 7:46 pm
northshorebhoy
Phil,
Read up on this on Sky Text(Maybe not the most reliable source). One of the options is to expel them from the Scottish Cup. Is this correct and – quite obviously – the easy route for the SFA to take?
May 29, 2012 at 5:59 pm
jimCB
Sion a wee bit they’ll be f****d!
May 29, 2012 at 5:57 pm
franco
If carlsberg did D & P legal advice…..
May 29, 2012 at 5:53 pm
Eckybhoy
What’s the bets FIFA don’t get involved.
May 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm
Pcip
The panel wanted expulsion but gave an embargo, don’t Rangers realise that what they were handed was the lesser of two evils ? They have just bit the hand that feeds them ,protects them and tickles their wee tummy. Bring on UEFA
May 29, 2012 at 5:51 pm
tc shields
Time for SFA to cross its own rubicon. Time to decide whats more important! The establishment or the establishments club!
To quote Sir Alex…..”Squeaky bum time!”
Last seasons ongoing fiasco over touchline bans,the shame game and the drawn out saga that is RFC(IA) have shown the SFA to be what it truly is. “Imcompetance in a blazer”
May 29, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Jim
This will be a long and exhaustive haul to get justice. We have the most bigoted football club and Association in Europe. RFC are still in shock that anyone would dare confront them. It’ll take months/years to accept they’re not ‘the establishment club’ anymore.
People power, UEFA and a reluctant SFA will eventually have to put them down.
May 29, 2012 at 5:51 pm
BurnsyBhoy
Scottish Football, already the subject of complete ridicule across Europe, now teeters on the brink of complete oblivion.
The only was back now is for complete expulsion of Dignity FC, and any future associated NewCo, and a complete overhaul at the SFA and SPL. We simply MUST cut out and remove the poison and corruption if there’s ever to be anyway back for our game…
May 29, 2012 at 5:46 pm
sam stone
The only way to clean up Scottish football is for the decent punters to withhold their money from all clubs, yes all clubs even Celtic, having attended Greenock Morton for 46 years they will get no more of my money as long as rangers in any form exist in Scottish football. If football Governance is now only about money, then money must be the weapon of choice.
May 29, 2012 at 7:59 pm
John Mac
What a horrible, horrible club. The “if we’re going down we’re bringing everyone else down with us” attitude sums them up perfectly.
No dignity. No honour. No humility. Nothing. Just greed and arrogance. Getting thrown out of football and then liquidated is the perfect end to this disgrace of an institution.
Goodbye. You won’t be missed.
May 29, 2012 at 5:45 pm
alan ryan
i think they’ve just sion-ed their own death warrant !
May 29, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Seanybhoy
Hi Phil I think that this could finally pull UEFA into all of this as they can’t be seen to do nothing obviously and once they start looking at it properly they’ll be astonished!Campbell Ogilvie et al.
May 29, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Jaq
I so hope that they have shot themselves in the foot here. Justice has to be done, and not just seen to be done, at some point in this ongoing charade.
May 29, 2012 at 5:42 pm
major clusterfuck
Massive own goal surely? Or can Barron greenback claim the end of the rankers wiz nay his fault but SFA/fifa?
May 29, 2012 at 5:42 pm