Listening is an undervalued skill for journalists in the digital age.

When Stewart Regan made his “social unrest” observation most of the hacks in the presser didn’t pick up on the significance of it.

They ignored what he had said and then barged on with questions about the SFL. SFA application by Sevco and other such insignificant matters next to public order.

Those two words should have stopped everyone in their tracks; instead Regan was bombarded with breathless questions from airhead hacks.

Thankfully they were not all of such a low calibre in the presser.

I have spoken to on one experienced journalist who was there and he remains quite clear what the SFA Chief Executive was speculating about.

Regan was concerned about the Ibrox mob’s capacity for trouble.

That is my guy’s settled view of what the Englishman was on about.

The SFA Chief Executive has tried to row back from the original “social unrest” comments.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18719894

Mr Regan obviously thinks it is unlikely that in the event of there being no football at Ibrox in the coming season that the famine song choir will take up a genteel hobby and be good citizens.

I agree with him on that.

Mention the  words “social unrest “ in connection with supporters of the deceased club  and it conjures up images of Barcelona, Pamplona and, of course, Manchester.

Perhaps he is correct that Edmiston drive is a sort of underclass crèche that provides a genuine social service to the rest of society.

However, I take the opposite view and that Rangers (1872-2012) was a gathering point and a source of affirmation for the worst elements in Scottish society.

Augmented by the finest specimens of Rathcoole and the Shankhill Road Ibrox has been a culture dish for some very toxic societal pathogens for over a century.

Of course, Regan’s comments does unwittingly heap greater pressure of the SFL clubs in their upcoming deliberations.

Turnbull Hutton and the other chaps may just have had another issue to consider when they decide on the Sevco application to their league:

Public order.

No pressure then…

 

Comments

  • Ian ferguson

    Book ordered, have not received it yet, BUT, the more I read the anguish of the VB as they spill their bile, the more I know you have hit a nerve ..big time.

    Looking forward to a good FACTUAL read.

  • Franklin D Hooverbelt

    Regan notes Anarchy will follow, it’s here now and you son, have presided over one Grand Master of a clusterf*#@.
    Nice legacy, God help us what you did in Coors, must be a blootering hangover.

  • Frankier

    Pensionerboy – As my mother, God rest her, used to say, “they are still alive the ones they have threatened to kill”. Anyone with any experience of working with these ratbags will tell you that they are all threats and no action. A quiet word in their ear outwith the hearing of a third party when they start their sectarian threats is usually enough to have them licking your a”se. I wouldn’t give them any credit for being able to frighten anyone. They are bullies and bullies are cowards, end of. Invite them to strike the first blow and then warn them that you will be duty bound to defend yourself and then see how they react. And don’t tell me I’m wrong, this type of response has never ever failed me during the past thirty years and I was brought up in a mining area where the pubs were like Dodge City some Friday and Saturday nights. After all, they all galloped into “reserved occupations” during the war.

  • jimmy1888

    To ask yourself WHY am I the victim is time to take a look at yourself and ask HOW am I the victim.To have social unrest because you can`t kick a piece of leather filled with the air that we breathe at the top level of football is time to ask everyone WHY.

  • droid

    Pensionerbhoy is truely erudite in his synopsis, the narccisistic rage may place unprecedented demands on the State Hospital and the Scottish Ministers, but will be contained.

    Eventually narccisism will surrender to necrotising behaviours which are already emerging in the wake of the nascent newco fc.

  • Jim Wood

    Just had to mention on SSN above the ticker The Rangers FC are now reported on under the SFL tag. Who would have thought.
    Most oldco RFC fans won’t bother anyone. I don’t really think it will be much of an issue, well no more than usual.

  • Ryan O'Neill

    Is it very wrong of me Phil to have a wry smile at the ironic thought of the armoured cars and tanks and guns trundling down paisley road west to try to bring “ra peepul” under control.

  • TLJD

    Pensionerbhoy

    Absolutely spot on, they don’t do walking away, au contraire they prefer physical violence over reason.

    Hell mend them.

  • thomas cochrane

    hey pensioner bhoy….ffs….gie it a fekn rest why dont you!!!!!

  • social unrest? never. I mean they only attacked the Celtic team in 1965 because their heroes had been unfairly defeated-same in hampden pitch invasion when they lost again-same in Manchester, Tottenham,Chesterfield and on and on and on. Is reagan proposing a new model of intervention-what an enlightened man. Do us a favour and go home and think again. There is only one way forward Div 3.

  • When Neil Lennon and a other Scottish celebrities were receiving death threats from the old ex-rangers nut cases…not a word from Stuart Regan. When Neil Lennon was sent bullets through the post along with parcel bombs…not a word from Stuart Regan. But when the Orange Lodges eleven are threatened with plopping into the Third Division well. . .warnings aplenty from the Lodges mouthpiece. He needs to zip it if he doesn’t know his own rules or can’t manage his own job. He’s an embarrassment and needs to resign along with his two other lodge mouthpieces.

    • JimBhoy

      Dude don’t get fussed…. We are the proper peepul sir. don’t have to put that in peoples’ faces

  • k

    Troubling times indeed Mr Mac Giolla Bhain!!

  • SamBrowneBelt

    Phil, much as I enjoy your posts, go write your book! :-)

  • Phil.

    Couple of quotes from the 70`s & 80`s

    Ian Archer.

    “Rangers are apermanant embarassment and occaisional disgrace.”

    Sporting Questions;
    Brian Cloug

    “What team did you say you support again”?

    Man in studio audience”RANGERS”

    Brian Clough”Thats not a football team!Thats a gang of thugs”

    How prophetic in 40 years nothing has changed.

    Be safe this weekend bhoys and ghirls The Hordes of Hades are in town in big numbers.

    “What team did

  • Phil, I wrote this some time ago having seen some blogs from Rangers supporters. It did so because I genuinely believe it is important to be aware of and prepared for the reactions of that core nasty element. It was not my intention, as seems to be that of Mr. Regan, to create a threatening atmosphere that would effect the whole of Scottish society and perhaps help influence football decision makers later in the month.

    Raging Bulls

    http://followfollowfail.blogspot.com/2012/06/is-situation-affecting-your-personal.html

    It would appear from the above that perhaps with the potential for a large number of raging bulls running amok, all china shops in and around Glasgow might be under serious threat. I guess there are none so hateful as those who rankle and none so murderous as those who seek vengeance. Fans of the now-extinct-Rangers F.C. have certainly been hateful towards the rest of Scottish football over the years and have been known on not a few occasions to take it to the extremes of death threats and even murder. In their psychotic narcissism, they have been intolerant to the extent of violence towards anything or anyone that does not adhere to their egotistical righteousness. Like spoiled brats, who have been unfortunately pandered to for a hundred years or more, they react to animosity in the manner of bulls on heat rampaging in search of targets for their vengeful lust.

    Such vicious bullying (forgive the pun) has been witnessed far beyond their own borders resulting in condemnation from countries, cities and football clubs throughout Europe and beyond. The venomous language of their web sites and blogs has a terrifyingly threatening ring to it. The so called uncontrolled dominant minority is so vicious, it justifies any need to use it as a distinct deterrent to any potential acceptance of the genuine few, far less the whole.

    It is a worrying thought that the violent behaviour of the now-extinct-Rangers F.C. fans would probably continue even if a new team, whatever it may be called, is devoid of its greatest rival and playing in a lower division. It would appear to be so ingrained in their psyche that it is nigh impossible to imagine any significant change in spite of a relocation. In fact, being demoted would very possibly result in a retaliation that has not seen its like in Scottish football ever. If their team ends up in the S.F.L., it would be expected that clubs in the lower divisions would bear the brunt of their wrath.

    Unlike clubs in the S.P.L., whose supporters may have sufficient numbers to proffer some defence, S.F.L. clubs on the whole will have, at most, only a few thousand to confront the rampaging hordes. For the majority these defences would most probably be so limited as to create a ‘Three Hundred Spartans’ scenario. This to me would be the death-knell of that particular S.F. league as supporters drift away club by club rather than try to confront the onslaught each would face at least every fortnight.

    Moreover, I contend that following a new club in the S.F.L. would only be a very short lived temporary distraction for that large number of fans who would most likely revert to type. I am certain there are those among them that would choose violent disruption at local S.P.L. matches as preferred entertainment to watching their adopted club playing, as they would see it, an insignificant game against what they would regard in footballing terms as a “nobody”. Once again they would place football hooliganism at the pinnacle of Scottish shameful behaviour and, as is their wont, would find someone else to blame, dragging all of us into the same cesspit, deserving or not. Once more the iron fist of a knee-jerk government would pound the innocent while ignoring the guilty. Some might argue that the calamity could be averted if the new club were not allowed a place in any Scottish league and this looks more and more to be a possibility. However, I seriously doubt this would eliminate the potential mayhem that could ensue no matter what the outcome from the present now-extinct-Rangers F.C. crisis.

    These type of supporters would only have more time and excuse to direct their venom at any football club in their sights. It is not beyond the realms of possibility for this to mean non-league football too. It seems a bleak picture but it is one painted to warn rather than to frighten. Preparation is at least half the battle.

    I am sure there are many who would question my depressing negativity. I have no physical evidence to support my theories. The proof for me lies in a gut instinct that tells me to be wary. My deductions are founded on the total lack of remorse, the blatant absence of an admission of guilt and the determination to lay the blame on others. Most threatening of all is the rallying calls to arms in tweets and blogs in pursuit of what these supporters see as warranted retribution. Not a single person from the now-extinct-Rangers F.C. has made the slightest attempt to seek reconciliation, neither director, member of staff nor supporter. On the contrary, still steeped in self-centred expectancy, they bleat cries of self pity. They practically demand leniency, clemency or mercy depending on their mood, all the attributes that their ex-club failed to display when requested in its time of power-broking, as witnessed by the now-extinct-Airdrieonians F.C.

    When the crocodile tears trigger no response, they are most certainly not averse to using threats. Furthermore, they have demonstrated they have lost none of their disdain for Scottish football, whether towards the authorities, other clubs and above all other supporters. Their superiority complex is the very antithesis of the reaction expected from those who have been humbled and defeated. For me, this very complex is what will instigate the need for revenge. Those who appear, in their eyes at least, to have contributed to their downfall, will be firmly in their sights, as alluded to in the verbal threats of their resurrected “hero”, Mr. S. Jardine. It is not inconceivable that in the melee there could well be “civilian casualties”.

    It would seem that almost all now-extinct-Rangers F.C. fans are, one suspects deliberately, blinded to the wrongdoing of their club. Nor do they recognise their own part in it through wallowing in and accepting the benefits of its misdeeds, not dissimilar to handling stolen goods, one might say. Increasingly they perceive themselves as the victims as others are portrayed more and more as the perpetrators for laying upon them the hand of justice. Justice is a virtue for which they have displayed very little respect throughout their ex-club’s history resulting in a perception that for them, special treatment is merited. It is this narrow-minded interpretation that has seen them unblushingly accept favours, lord it over all rivals, have their destructive way with numerous people and places offering them hospitality. Above all, embedded in their minds is the belief that gaining undue advantage or reaping undeserved rewards is absolutely acceptable provided it is not exposed or, even worse, condemned. Can anyone truly deny the potential of such a mindset to act ad extremis when trapped.

    The entangled current affairs of both their ex-club and the new entity has undoubtedly ensnared these supporters in fear, fury and hatred. Warped by a disingenuous Scottish media and a succession of shifty rescuers and their cohorts, they at least imagine if not believe, that all other fans are but crazed hunters. As can only be expected from cornered prey, rather than reason a feasible and bloodless escape plan, they are apt to rush headlong into a fight. I believe that when they finally retaliate, they will resemble more the raging bull than the cunning fox.

  • jimCB

    So follow follow the rules and go to the third division. Cool. But what happens when HMRC sells the park and the training ground?Is that such a far fetched scenario? Given everything that has come to pass ? Then when the ebt double contracts are duly investigated what additional punishments will be given? Loss of titles and cups where it can be proved players were played illegally ? Points deductions ? Fines ? As the mighty newco come to terms with their new life in the underworld they might find that the nightmare is just beginning. When football fans ask me here in France what an old firm fixture is like I usually say it’s a war it goes beyond football into something thats horrible,primitive and disgusting but at the same time riveting. Wouldnt it be great to not need to scream hatred for 90 minutes and be seduced by beautiful football? We’ll be finding out next season.In Paris PSG spent a year with the tribune boulogne closed. This part of the ground was used by notorious fascist thugs who were allowed to exist by the powers at the club because of threats and a perhaps also because the board werent that far philosophically from their skinhead foot soldiers. This gang of ‘ultras’ were powerfull and organised but they’ve been effectively dismantled and now have nowhere to go. PSG was sold to the Sheiks. Itseems obvious that they had to clean their act up first with millions to be gained from the sale. If the newco support continue to chant their poison fines will follow follow.Eventually its going to change or they’ll really go under FOR GOOD. Its the responsability of the club to police its own supporters whatever league they end up in. Charlie has his work cut out and its still possible he wont be around very long.A consortium of ‘real’ true blues will quite possibly eventually gain control but I think we can safely say that its never going to be the same again. Great thing have came out of this ‘crisis’ already and hypocrites have been exposed. Yes interesting times ahead.

  • Slugger O'Toole

    Social unrest bad , Celtic good .

  • Sir John Reith’s quote comes to mind, when describing the majority of rangers fans general behaviour, “A potential social menace of the first magnitude” although maybe we can omit ‘potential’ from the quote, Stewart Regan by the way should not be making statements, with respect to” social unrest” especially with the marching season upon us

  • JimBhoy

    Jeez they moved the date to the 13th… Who would have thought?… Anyone want to put forward a suggestion as to why this date may have changed? :) Oh yeah more time needed for the corrupt to turn heads and bully out a result, mibbees ayes mibbees naws..!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18727333

  • Neil

    I picked up on it straight away Phil (social unrest)and knew exactly what he meant.

    Can I remind everyone (as if you needed), that the big “Walk” is this Saturday in Glasgow.

    Lets see how the neanderthals conduct themselves but don,t hold your breath after yesterdays result!

    Phil, I read your post last week on Bella Caledonia and mentioned you got it 100% for me, maybe some of it needs reviewing, or it will take longer to reach its fruition?

    Good luck with the book and lets hope the heavens open on Saturday :-)

    KTF

  • JimBhoy

  • The Wallace

    After reading everything I could about the events of yesterday, I believe he is intentionally trying to
    a) put undue, unfair and unwarranted pressure on the SFL team boards and chairmen, in order to influence vote.
    b) threaten the good people of Scotland by putting thoughts into the mean spirited heads of the large violent element of sevco supporters and therefore giving the opportunity for people like the right reverend demagogue, or similar, and red, white and blue Adair’s organisation and their people skills to ride up and exploit their fears and prejudices for their own selfish ends. I do not like comparisons to the rise of Nazism, but this disingenuous attempt to look after the good of Scotland, leads to the burning of parliament buildings ( maybe no bad thing in our case, as I have asserted before, but for aesthetic reasons and none other).
    I have met really bad losers but this Regan lad takes some beating. By his actions and now by his mouth he has created a situation that really now could cost someone’s life and if any one is hurt, then let us remember who started to make the ammunition.
    Up until now their attempts at any kind of concerted action have been poor, but the mention of organised civil unrest by Regan is just an excuse to make up for his despicable behaviour over the past couple of months. Although he deserves it, I hope this does not back fire on him, because it will be some other poor soul who gets hurt. I wonder is he always like this when he doesn’t get his own way.
    This man must be removed from office now, his comments were no mistake or made through genuine concern, he is trying to cause trouble with a capital T.
    Up until now the old Rangers/Newco fans have taken it better than I could have ever imagined. I hope someone with real political power is aware of what the organisers of the SPL, as well as Duff and Phelps has been up to, far from fitting behaviour from so-called professional people.
    I believe a Westminster inquiry into the state of Scottish Football is being initiated next week. I do not know anymore than that.

  • Joe Paterson

    Mr Regan has identified a risk of social unrest if Dodo FC are not err invited to Div 1
    Hypothetically, your having a party and the whole street is invited, but there is one neighbour who no matter what party he goes to never as much as brings a can of beer, a burly unruly type who has a history of causing mayhem no matter whos home hes in,
    so he wont spend his own cash, wont contribute to the party costs and his attendance generally brings about a less than jovial atmosphere, this worsens when drink he hasnt paid for is consumed, so you speak to your pals and decide youve all had enough of this, no party invite this time around, ahh but if we dont invite him here he might just go elsewhere and cause problems………..
    That would then be a Police matter wouldnt it?

    Am I missing the point here Mr Regan?

  • Phil ,
    they have been promising this since 14th feb.Be under no illusions the very next time they have a game they will cause mayhem.I pity the town they visit because they will be sure to put on an act of defience to every one and any one.It was clear to see when bomber command tried to talk to them at Sevco House,the venom and bile could not be contained.But who to blame next heavy handed police,celtic,catholic schools,sfa,spl,sfl.They should look closer to the succulent bams who have treated them like mushrooms(you know the craic).When will the clear out start at the MSM.

  • yogibhoy

    there was a text going ’round that a certain “bomber” and a certain “goalie” had charged £500 each appearance money at a RFF night at the masonic in baillieston.
    surely not ?
    HH , phil.

  • yogibhoy

    hail , hail, phil ,
    there was a text going ’round that a certain “bomber” and a certain “goalie ” had charged £500 each for appearing at a RFF night at the baillieston masonic.
    surely not ?

  • NAWD

    Hi Phil,

    I have been trying to access Alex Thomson’s web site at channel 4 do you know if the hackers have shut him down as they did with your own site.

  • Stewie Griffin

    Well, our blue/orange friends are a bit busy this weekend spouting their own brand of triumphalism. But what to do after the 12th.

  • Stu

    Phil,

    I think you’re being a little unkind here.

    I would think there are tens of thoudsands of bears outraged at Reagan’s comments – in one swift move he’s managed to paint every fan with the same brush.

    Empty cans make the most noise, and that’s what we’ve got with Bomber and his followers. If you talk to most Rangers fans, they want to be in the 3rd division now, and don’t agree at all with Reagan. Their reasons why might vary wildly – some see it as a punishment for the rest of Scottish football, others see it as a chance to pay their dues and not have to be forever the team that had the rules bent for them – but they are fairly united on this.

    It’s funny how this all started out as seeing a team appropriately punished for their actions, and instead has exposed the stinking rotten core of Scottish football.

  • Bill

    As Chief Executive of the SFA, Mr Regan is expected to exercise much better judgement and use a more prudent choice of words. I agree the anticipated “social unrest” is a distinct possibility given past history but lets not use this as a bargaining chip. Let it be Division 3.

  • Thekwizatshaderach

    Stewart Regan on if Rangers collapse ” Wicker Men are being fired up as we speak in Larkhall”

  • frank mcilvaney

    Phil, anyone who listened to John Brown on Clyde last night would have heard him say that he couldn’t repeat, in public, what Charles Green had said to him at the now infamous meeting as it would have put Greens safety at risk.

    Surely this is one of “ra peepuls” own admitting what everyone knows about the base elements that attaches itself to this now dead club.

    • JimBhoy

      The evidence is there for all to see, police being testament to that already with the first Appeals board.
      The mindset will never change and i do feel sorry for the Decent Sevco fan who go to Ibrox to see a football contest.

      Apparently when Green had finished his meeting with Bummer Brown his words were…’Hail Hail’… To all Sevco fans reading this, that was a joke BTW.. I could see how that could incite rage.. Actually on that note, I mistyped a google search a couple of days ago, i typed in ‘ragers’, freudian..?

      To my main point , I hope Rangers get the 1st Divison berth because unlike the assumptions of Zippy, George and Bungle and most of the papperazzi, I really do not think that does them any favours. 1. Still p!sses off the fans who want to be in Div3 to show the rest of Scottish football how much they will miss them. 2. The do not have a team to compete in Div1 and who will do player business with them now? 3. It is being disrespectful to the present incumbents of Div1 making the assumption that sevco will bounce back straight away, 4. If they do, it effectively stops an ambitious Div1 team from promotion to the top league for another season. 5. If/when they do NOT get promoted in the first season that could be very negative for the club IMO. Success in Div3 would give them some momentum and something to build on, ie a positive 6. If/When they go t!ts up before Xmas thru lack of fan funding (Cheers for that Bummer Brown) then it will have a bigger “visible” impact than being in Div1 than Div3.

      listen up for the various sponsors making their excuses to draw away from Sevco…

      12th July!! it could be soooo Ironic if they get sent to the lower leagues, hope not for the reasons above but with the changing mood of Scottish football anything is possible..

      Did i mention the appellate result or dual contracts????

  • Bill Kerr

    And another thing Phil, do these comments from Mr Regan suggest that the SFA can never suspend or exclude Rankers even if that is what their own rules require? I ask you what is the point of football in Scotland everything is totally rigged, and while I an Arab I am sure the SFA would have fully punished the other half of the OF without a second thought!

  • Tallybhoy

    Social unrest in Scotland, ‘the best little bigoted country in the world’?! Surely not?! It would never happen here! Not with people like the spokesman of the ‘ordinary’ RFC(ia/l) fans, John Brown, a man whose eloquence and calm demenour is doing much to reasure everyone that things will be fine!

    HH!!

  • Dhougal

    The zombies are already trying to organise protests and disrupt SPL games next season ,just as well they couldnt organise a piss-up in a brewery ,but they will be more danGERous now ,

  • Margaret Hart

    i’ve said this a few times, this whole saga has gone beyond newco now. The attitude of the footballing authorities has been horrendous going from lying, bullying, scaremongering to now inciting violence (that is what i take from regans ‘social unrest’ comments, had the scumbag ‘minority’ not been thinking about it, i’m sure they are now) only positive that can be taken from all of this is the fact that the other clubs/fans can see just how corrupt they authorities are and maybe us Celtic fans arent so paranoid afterall!

  • The thing is, there shouldn’t be a debate, the majority of supporters throughout the land, including Oldco/Newco/Sevco supporters, accept that Div 3 is the only way to go. Although there’s no doubt in my mind that “they” have different reasons for that, which go along the lines of “Let them see what happens to Scottish fitba without us”. Leaving aside the EBTs and tax cases – IMO these are separate issues, with separate punishments for the Oldco – there’s no reason why they can’t just start in Div 3 in time for 2012/13 season. They should consider themselves lucky to start there.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Scottish football WILL flourish if/when that happens. We may see less and less of the foreign mediocrity that has come in on over-inflated wages, only to turn out to be useless, and thank God. Scottish youth will flourish, the national team will reap the rewards, and Scottish football can feel good about themselves, and isn’t THAT what these characters were brought in to do? To promote a positive vision of Scottish football? To ensure the game is played and regulated within the rules “WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR”?

    They’re not fit for purpose, and when this whole sorry mess is sorted – and by sorted I mean when the rules as they are written are applied – these shysters should have their performance reviewed, be sacked and barred from working within the game in any meaningful way for life.

    • Ben mcginlay

      Bravo my friend. That’s on a par with Nez Perce’s Chief Joseph’s oratory on surrendering to the US army. Hail Hail to the good and honest

  • Hamish M

    So clubs must vote them into Div 1 and get rid of them back to SPL as soon as possible.

  • roythebhoy

    I forsee a very irate and bitter band of Sevco/Cowdengers followers entering the quaint littel towns of Scotland (regardless of which league they enter)
    I have no doubt the SR’s comments were deliberate and will hopefully backfire spectacularly (again)
    BTW Phil, you really ought to be getting on with that book!

  • Terrible choice of words by regan, if this is what he predicts mite happen when ZOMBIE BIGOTS FC dont get accepted intae div 1 then what more evidence does he need, (Manchester, Barcelona ect) to realize that Scottish football and Scottish society deserve this chance to finaly disband this institution forever, there dead, lets keep it that way and move swiftly on mr regan. Hail hail, GOD BLESS IE CELTIC+

  • KillerJ

    John Brown will keep them in line, he sums up what it means to be a Rangers Man(1872-2012). You require to have: a thuggish nature, delusions of grandure, half a brain, primitive grasp of English, mild dyslexia (explains why they have problems with understanding facts – Rangers are Dead…….still don’t get it)

    Is there any truth in the rumour that Bomber was bladdered at the fans meeting last night?

    All the Huns I know won’t speak to fenians about fitbaw, we are their enemies for hurting their Institution Sevco 5088!!!

    I just hope we have a full investigation into the double contracts…………..and its not swept under the carpet to appease the Orcs!!!

  • brian

    So this means if the SFL don´t vote them in then God help everyone else in Scotland & fear is the reason they should be voted in.Is this guy still in office ?

  • Paul J

    Hi Phil
    social unrest was one the first thoughts i had several months ago when the real notion that Rangers could cease to exist can to be a possibility. i have considered since then that everyone would have thought of the social consequences of thousands not being at Ibrox on any given saturday but also the many thousands of disenfranchised rangers supporters roaming the streets somewhat jealous of the other half of glasgow actually playing. “the old firm”, although ostensibly about football, has never quite been about football. It has been about religious and social divides in the country i was born in. it has been a striving for equality among various groups that little to do with football. I have considered the impact (from a safe distance) of Rangers going into oblivion but have been buoyed by the comparitively small demonstrations that have been mounted by the clubs supporters in recent weeks. The camp looks divided, but wait… when the SFL decided to admit rangers as long as they start in Div 3 on july 12th (who thought that would be a good date) what levels of civil unrest will befall the people of belfast or indeed parts of glasgow in the days that precede and follow that important date. No one has mentioned the 12th july date as important because they do not want to be the one who brought it up in much the same way as few are prepared to talk about the social unrest that will happen in a rangers free environment. We dont know what will happen but you bet your life they will continue to be called Rangers supporters and not orange bigots or scottish protestants in news reports. on another matter however i cant let this go without suggesting that if Ibrox is the breeding ground and affirmation point for a particular view point then surely Celtic park is in a similar position. Dont forget, as we parade our moral indignation, that all is not exactly ship shape in our own backyard.

    • Ben mcginlay

      I can’t disagree with your sentiments but most clubs in the UK have an element of undesirables, but I would suggest it is a minority and our problem is a wee bit more political than the mob from the other side of the city. whether it is right or wrong. But the Celtic support have made friends all over the world, many cities have been invaded and trashed by the Ibrox hordes showing no respect or remorse. That is fact.

  • greenallover

    As soon as i saw the quotes i,like yourself Phil,knew exactly what he was referring to.Ibrox is nothing more than a glorified sectarian gang hut.You only have to look at John Browns ridiculous steps of Ibrox rantings and listen to the gathered crowd to see what the problem is.Time to go i think,for society and the people of Scotland to move on.

  • Gaffney

    The SPL and SFA have done a terrible job in this whole affair and it looks like it’s getting worse. Why doesn’t he just release an in detail spreadsheet of predicted finances in each situation. As I understand Rangers going to division three would reduce revenue by 10% at the most. That might be a big number but it’s not an impossible one, squad’s can be trimmed, wages can be reduced or clubs can seek to recover revenue by other means.

    Why is Regan coming out saying this. The spl clubs should come out with a joint statement on how their finances will be impacted and put their numbers in a spreadsheet document on how much they will be effected. There is a lot of variables but they can make good predictions.

    So far it’s been the fans that have pushed the numbers and they certainly paint a different picture from Regan’s.

  • Bill Kerr

    Well said Phil, unfortunately I just heard Hugh Keevens on Talksport regurgitate the Reagan comments as if they were totally true and incontestable, spreading the PR assault to the whole of the UK. So much for caring about the standing of our game.

  • john lacon

    let them riot then bring the troops in to controll it see how much respect they show to them then phil

  • Kevin D

    Is he implying that their is a culture of “social unrest” among supporters of a now defunct football club?

  • Lisbonlion72

    You lot?Who do you refer to sir?Reminds me of the George Galloway caller who wanted to “BOMB RO LOT OF THEM”.get over it you are not to be trusted !

  • Ben mcginlay

    You should get out more and get a life,face facts and question yourself and your club more.

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