Is Jabba off to pastures green?

The man who gave us the succulent lamb phrase has been dropping none too subtle hints live on Radio Scotland that he is for the off.

The thought that this latter day Samuel Johnson will not grace the pages of the Daily Record is unlikely to cause wailing and gnashing of teeth amongst those of us with molars to gnash and the energy to wail.

But where will Jim Traynor, seen by many as an apologist for all things Rangers and David Murray in particular, ply his trade if he walks out of the offices on the Clydeside for the final time?

The Beeb? Highly unlikely that the residents of offices just across the river could afford the salary Mr Traynor currently commands at a time when there is a cull underway.

The Scottish Sun?  While they could afford his wages there are many within that outfit that would see Traynor as a negative force amongst their readership.

The Herald?  That is his old stomping ground, where he first proved he could string a word or two together. Well they can’t afford anything as expensive as succulent lamb. I’m afraid it is only cheap mutton that is on the menu there.

The Scotsman? Well Tom English would probably jump up and down, throw the toys out of his pram and threaten to walk out. Appealing though that might be, don’t start celebrating quite yet.

The sad truth is that The Scotsman, like the Herald, is broke.

So where will Mr Traynor earn a shilling or two to buy his succulent lamb?

I believe he may be considering heading to the wild blue yonder.

Traynor had an ugly spat with Mark Hollinshead, the chief operating officer at a black dinner bash in Glasgow quite a time ago and many observers believed Mr Traynor’s time at the Record was limited.

Out of interest, that nickname given to Mr Traynor of Jabba the Hutt, from the Star Wars film is really quite hurtful.

Jabba in the film series is a 600 year old gangster with an insatiable appetite, and has close affinities with the mobster underclass. He is depicted as a grossly overweight alien, described by one film critic as a cross between a toad and a Cheshire Cat.

Why Mr Traynor got this label is beyond me, he is much younger for starters.

So could the lad from Airdrie be off to a corporate role in pastures green?

As they say in newspaper circles. Hold the front page!

50 thoughts on “Is Jabba off to pastures green?

  1. Bill

    Mr Traynor’s contribution to impartial journalism can be summed up as :-

    “Rangers then, Rangers now, Rangers forever”.

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  2. yogibhoy

    he may be a few things but i don’t think he’s a mug . the sad thing for me is ,this points to zombie fc actually having a future .

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  3. Dal

    Traynor’s rant about ‘bigots’ is a contradiction in terms. Amongst the rest of Scottish journalism, he never once opposed RFCs racist and religious discriminatory system during the 1970s/80s.

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  4. frankiebhoy

    He says bloggers are not journalists.
    I would love to see a debate akin to
    Galloway v Hitchins with yourself and another pro-truth journalist e.g. Alex T. against Jabba and Keevins et al.
    Have it in a country where televised assaults would be seen to be an assault – then assault their sorry stance with all you have.

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  5. Matthew

    This is off topic but there’s a question that’s been at the back of my mind for months and I’d appreciate the input of the contributors here.

    Clearly, one of the main reasons Sevco are able to perpetrate the myth that they are the same Rangers as the club founded in 1873 is the fact that they are able to keep their name and and their crest. Remove those facets of their identity and it becomes obvious that this isn’t the same outfit. What I want to know is, are they likely to lose this once BDO have finished with the liquidation process? Are there not laws against ‘phoenixism’ of this kind? Obviously Charles Green purchased these assets in the original asset sale but are they his for keeps?

    I’m just bemused as to how they are allowed to be reported as Rangers, wear the same strips and carry the same crest when everyone with half an eye on the story knows that they’re not.

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  6. Tony

    If Mr Traynor does take up a role with The Rangers, I am assuming that his position at the BBC will become untenable and he will be moved on from that too? But I suppose we are dealing with a sport that allows it’s top executive to be hopelessly compromised but manages to keep their job. If the BBC keep him on whilst he is in any kind of TRFC PR job then I would hope that there would be a significant backlash.

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  7. Through and through

    FOR THOSE WHO WOULD RATHER NOT VISIT THE DR SITE…
    By James Traynor | 3 Dec 2012 10:17

    IT was never a job. More of an absolute joy, if truth be told.

    But all good things come to an end and when they do, it’s important to end with some good things.

    When writing this, my final newspaper column, the memories come flooding in. When the time comes to change direction and move on, let the best of those memories rush from every corner of your mind and keep the worst of them locked away.

    If people who have abused you because of their own bigoted and narrow-minded ways, or events that might have saddened you deeply, are allowed light and oxygen you let them tarnish and blacken what you’ve done and achieved.

    For instance, this column – the final one after 37 years in newspapers – could bang on about supporters who have spat on my coats and jackets, thrown all sorts of insults and occasionally bricks and bottles. But that would demean everything.

    I could name managers, players, club directors and administrators who, because the truth can hurt, have wished me all kinds of harm and misfortune. But neither they nor their words mattered. They damaged and shamed only themselves.

    So from Andre Agassi (tennis is such a wonderful sport) to Zinedine Zidane (football really is a beautiful game despite the money grabbers and crooks), it has been amazing. It’s been a blast. Uplifting but also a deeply humbling and, at times, disturbing journey.

    When Scotland were in Bucharest to play a European Championship qualifying tie against Romania, a couple of years after that madman Nicolae Ceausescu had been overthrown by revolution, players broke down. So too did supporters.

    It was 1991 and the horrors of the Romanian orphan crisis were becoming clearer to the outside world.

    It was heartbreaking. Even the most hardened cynical hacks cried at the sight of swarms of hungry, distraught children wandering the streets begging for morsels.

    I know I said the bad memories should be locked away but those kids, who snatched all the money we could muster as though we were making them instant millionaires, can never be forgotten.

    Strangely, another memory also concerns tears. But this time they came from a Brazilian great sitting right in the middle of Avenue Foch in Paris at the start of the 1998 World Cup finals.

    Nilton Santos was there with Pele, Carlos Alberto and another great, Alfredo di Stefano, who was claimed by both Argentina and Spain.

    I was there because I’d had a say in selecting the team of the 20th century – just for the Record that team was: Lev Yashin, Carlos, Franz Beckenbauer, Bobby Moore, Santos; Johan Cruyff, Di Stefano, Michel Platini; Garrincha, Pele and Diego Maradona. Then I sat with Pele, Santos and Di Stefano listening to their tales.

    It was fascinating, even when Santos, who had been a father figure to the deeply troubled Garrincha, wept as he spoke of the tormented genius and his final tragic years.

    But there were loads of laughs with the greats of the people’s game to giants of other sports. Heroic characters such as Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Sugar Ray Leonard, Jack Nicklaus, Seve Ballesteros, Tiger Woods, Wayne Gretzky, Bjorn Borg, Rod Laver, Ilie Nastase, Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe (did I mention tennis is a wonderful sport?), Boris Becker, Pete Sampras, Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal, Mark McGwire (baseball is such an hypnotic and simply beautiful sport, maybe even the best) and the 49ers’ Jerry Rice.

    There are just too many to list. But it’s been a privilege to have seen them in the flesh and even under the threat of extreme torture, such as being forced to listen to recordings of SFA/SPL meetings, I could never say my job has been anything like work. It’s been a pleasure.

    Until recently.

    Unfortunately, there has been the last twisted and bitter year during which Scottish football, unable to deal with the Rangers crisis in a civilised manner, has tried to tear itself apart. All in the name of sporting integrity, of course.

    Actually, for the last couple of years some of the most bilious types have been allowed to emerge from the shadows and spew invective that sadly became regarded as fact, even though what they were saying and writing wasn’t even close to being definitive. Or honest. Overnight all sorts of anonymous bloggers became experts. These champions of decency had all the answers. They knew better than anyone else. They said over and over Rangers would be done for cheating the tax man.

    They were wrong, the Rangers Tax Case blog in particular. Yet he/her/they stated: “This blog has been accurate on all of the major points of the case except the one that matters most to date –the FTT (First-tier Tax Tribunal) outcome”.

    Excuse me? Accurate on all the major points except the bit that matters most. And that’s all right is it?

    That’s a bit like a team manager saying after a defeat: “Hold on, I picked the right team and I believe my tactics were correct. So the result doesn’t really matter.”

    Dolts. The result is everything. If any of the Rangers Tax Case bloggers are trained lawyers, would you want them to defend you in a court of law?

    Even now so many – and I include some fellow journalists – still cannot bring themselves to accept Rangers did not cheat the tax man by using EBTs.

    One journalist declared it to be “a government conspiracy” when he heard the ruling in Rangers’ favour.

    Perhaps in time more will be written about this kind of hack and the rabid desire to help bring down Rangers, a fierce desire that, sadly, was widespread. Actually, I’m sure more will be written about them.

    Just when did they become consumed by such eye-popping rage? Was it always there, a dormant fury against Rangers and their fans, who deserve enormous credit for having saved their club, just waiting for the catalyst?

    Now they can’t help themselves. They can’t stop foaming at the mouth and we can be sure their determination to have titles stripped will go into overdrive.

    They need some kind of victory or they might explode and that would be terribly messy. All that bile all over the walls and streets.

    Unfortunately reason was never allowed to be a player in this grotesque game, which quickly became dominated mostly by incoherent imbeciles fuelled by all that hatred.

    And let’s not forget how some with telly platforms were prompted by those bloggers and ill-informed commentators. Stupidly they allowed themselves to be duped by supporters with dangerous agendas hidden under the banner of integrity.

    And the result? Some of the most shallow and infantile drivel ever written. These egotists are so into themselves they’ve no regard for the safety or wellbeing of those about whom they have written some awful and completely inaccurate pieces.

    Despicable, pathetic little creatures craving some kind of recognition but lacking in conscience and morality.

    I’m so sorry they’ve had to be thrown up into the same piece as some of the true greats and gentlemen of world sport.

    However, that’s it. My work here is done and I’m glad – but just for the record, I’ve not been sacked or made redundant. I was asked to remain but my conscience won’t allow me to stay in our profession.

    The kind of journalism needed by the country, never mind sport, no longer exists in enough of the media outlets.

    But as I’ve said, the good memories of all those sporting greats will always outweigh the negatives, especially those that bubbled to the surface throughout this last year.

    Thanks to sport’s real heroes I’ve had a ball and thank you for reading while I was with The Herald, the Daily Express and the Daily Record.

    Good luck to you – and be careful about what and who you read in the future.

    There are people out there calling themselves by different names.

    But that’s not the bit that should worry you. They are calling themselves journalists.

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    1. Spartacus MacDonald

      Pull down the union flag! Vote for independence in a citizen’s democracy in Scotland. No crown and no tax dodging!

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  8. rOY wOOD

    As a non-tabloid person (your day begins so much nicer without them)I’m pleasantly surprised tonight to discover that Jabba is “resigning” in a fit of pique. I clicked the link provided ealier on this page to read the Fat Lady’s “final piece”
    It confirms my suspicions were bang on. A very bitter and hurting Sevconian if ever there was one. Airdrie (deceased) supporter indeed.
    Ha ha, it just gets better and better. Hopefully the BBC licence fee will be releived of his childish below average phone-in capers as well?

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  9. FrancieBhoy

    Poor Jabba. Could the truth be he was pushed as he had become a figure of ridicule. Reading back the piece about succulent lamb gives me the boak. How a grown man who was meant to be a professional could write such utter fawning drivel is beyond me. Goodbye Jabba. You won’t be missed

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  10. Martin

    The irony in all of this is Jabba has come out shouting from the rooftops declaring “Rangers Innocence” whilst slaughtering anyone and everyone who dared speak out against them, however, if HMRC appeal before the 56 days lapse then it’s back to 0-0.

    The other issue is Rangers and their fans are doing the rounds looking for apologies for their own financial mismanagement but totally neglecting the main issue which is the SPL commission.

    They have the audacity or total ignorance to suggest the result in the FTT should have any baring on the result of the SPL investigation.

    The FTT has a wealth of evidence including proof that players received appearance and bonus money through an EBT which will be deemed contractual in the SPL eyes.

    BDO will tell the Rangers fans everything they need to know, and when that day comes, hopefully, they will finally realise the problem was of their own making.

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  11. Neil

    Here was me thinkin he was an Airdrie supporter…oops silly me, does this mean the Famine song is back on the song sheet at Ipox, is he going to tell the Celtic fans to leave the country.
    The man who was resposible for NOT telling the Rangers fans what was happening at their Club is now responsible for their PR…..oh what a disaster.
    Lamb back on Ibrox menu – not medium rare, most definately blue….

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  12. Stephen Pollock

    Phil, any truth Jabba has got a job at Sevco as the new Broxy Bear? He wanted to get closer to the greats and the action and couldn’t turn the offer down. That’s what I’m hearing :-)

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  13. dave donnelly

    Just read Traynor’s “final collumn” as he puts it. What satisfies me is the ranting bitterness displayed.
    His obvious irritation is a triumph for the truth and the final proof needed to convince me we’ve seen the last of Minty Moonbeams in the Scottish football arena.
    Another small victory.

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  14. Paul C

    Reading his final column – all starts off as a career reflection with some of the biggest names in sport – soon descends into a rant at all who have wronged the peepil!

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  15. Ian

    I won’t read his final goodbye in the DR(mind you I haven’t read that paper in years) but by all accounts he’s bitter.I do believe it’s because of folk like yourself who have exposed the churnalists. Well done Phil.The world of Journalism(not that he ever was) is now better off.It’s a pity a few more don’t go under with him.

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  16. Scottsman78

    If the only people who listen to his crap is Sevco fans, surely the only place for him to work is on Sevco News or whatever they call themselves now?

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  17. Brendan

    Now this really would be cracking news Phil…

    His obsessive and staunch (how apt) defence of a toxic brand not just in recent months but for many years (throughout their “permanent embarassment and occasional disgrace” period) has been the very definition of churnalism in Scotland..

    His depiction of football fans during the Scottish Spring as obsessive Rangers Haters,and motivated only by that, was appalling. I believed at the time that his editor should have chased his signature on a resignation document..but no…

    So does a post call at the PR offices of Sir Minty Moonbeam…or as editor of Sevco News?

    Or maybe he’s content to see out his years as a season ticket holder at ahem… Airdrie United…

    In any event his departure (if so) will be lauded by many..

    Chick Young may well be allowed an opinion though…

    On second thoughts…

    Could this be another 1st Phil?

    Brendan

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    1. Brendan

      Indeed it was another first Phil, in a year or two of many…also curiously in my view the reason he dislodges himself..

      He and his type have been found wanting despite his rant to the contrary…

      And what a rant it was, I must confess I bought a copy today just to read his last sorry attempt at ahem..journalism

      And my what a sorry attempt it was, full of bitterness and hate filled invective and largely rhetoric bilge…

      No class, no humility nor dignity…now where have placed those qualities lacking before?

      Good job Phil…

      Brendan

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  18. PrideAndNoPrejudice

    Never had a problem with Traynor to be fair. Yes, he was in the succulent lamb cabal in his time but I seem to recall that he used to be quite open about speaking honestly in the past. I’m pretty sure he criticised Murray et al at times when the tax case started to be news did he not?

    His reaction to the FTT result did however surprise me. One can only assume he was under instruction – bear in mind that he works for a paper that obviously wants to protect its readership. The DR is in a position where they don’t want to alienate either half of Glasgow so they have to pander. But use your brain, read the report and you’ll realise it’s nonsense.

    I’m a tax accountant with a little over 20 years experience. I’ve represented clients in obscure cases with HMRC and never lost (I’ve even won compensation from them). I have a good knowledge of historical tax cases such as the Ramsay case that was referred to in the FTT (you’re taught about cases like that when you do your tax exams). You don’t need tax knowledge though to understand the FTT report. Ignore the case law and complex bits and read the bits that you understand as a layman. It’s all quite obvious.

    It’s cut and dried. You don’t need to be a tax expert to reach the same conclusion. I invite anyone with an open-minded brain to read it and not come to the same conclusion. It’s a no-brainer. It’s a story of players and their agents having agreed the players’ wages then the club disguising a large fraction of those wages as ‘loans’ with written side-letters that state payment terms accordingly (ie contractual). That cannot be disputed – it’s there in black and white. Rangers only ‘won’ their case because the 2 law experts didn’t address it from the proper tax perspective. HMRC might not appeal since there is no real prospect of them recovering any worthwhile sums, but if they do I’d be very surprised if they were not successful.

    For the record, I don’t do bigotry or any of that ‘I’m pro-Celtic-so-automatically-anti-Rangers’ stuff. I feel genuinely sorry for all the decent Gers out there – you deserved better. But an awful lot of you need to wake up and smell the coffee.

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  19. jim.larkin

    i don’t think you actually care phil, do you?
    i mean – honestly – would he be missed?

    maybe they could employ a journalist who actually askes pertinent and probing questions?!

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  20. Jim Payne

    He once phoned me up after I’d written a letter to the Herald in which I made a very mild criticism of an article he’d written about Celtic. Fair put me off my Sunday lunch.

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  21. Michael Garrett

    I certainly hope you’re right, and that he is off to pastures new – not sure I can stand his dismissive, domineering style of broadcasting – he even makes old Hugh Keevins sound reasonable! How many times did we have to listen to him lecture us that Rangers would never be thrown out the SPL, then he assured us Rangers would be in division 1, suggesting inside information etc. Armageddon my…..

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  22. Tommo

    Would it be to much to ask for at christmas if he was to retire. Why would any journalist want to live in denial for the rest of their life. ‘Oops’ I am beginning to feel sorry for him.
    Keep up the good work Phil.

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  23. Burnsy Bhoy

    Wherever he goes it won’t be far enough away, just please God don’t let it be somewhere giving him more column inches, air time, or any media influence.

    I’m betting it’ll be somewhere alongside Chuckles, The Cardigan and the Pie Muncher, and relate to media/public relations for the new Div. 3 club.

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  24. Rhino22

    Cmon Phil – get it all out! When n how many meetings have already took place.
    Personally I thought he was already on the pay slip lol ;-)

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  25. Island Mac

    Archie Macpherson admitted recently, in the Glasgow Herald, that when Jock Stein took over at Celtic the BBC in Glasgow was all things anti Catholic and anti Celtic. Things do not seem to have changed that much although with a name like Traynor you would have thought Jabba may have had at least some understanding of the history of the Glasgow club. He cannot shake his grovelling to Murray, a charlatan of the highest order, and his reaction to the majority FTT ruling did fit in with the Star Wars analogy, but more of The Poodle Strikes Back variety. What annoys me most is how Traynor, a self-styled opinionator in the Record, is allowed to abuse the airwaves via both Radio and BBC Scotland. Simon Jenkins is a columnist for the Guardian, but they didn’t let him Chair Question Time last Thursday! Did the Record’s policy, of Murray worshipping, over the last twenty years work, not if you look at the catastrophic drop in their circulation! figures.

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  26. Dan The Man

    Sports Editor at the Beano or The Dandy? Oh Please Please! He could eat as much Cow Pie as Moonbeams can provide at these publications.

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  27. droid

    Hmm, is there a subtle undercurrent here that the pastures ‘green’ may be with one Charles Green Esq? Wildly speculative without an ounce of fact in keeping with their styles.

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