In Greek mythology Icarus fell to earth because of his arrogance and highflying ambition.
Will the same fate befall the new Govan God Charlie Green who is alleged to be flying over the very spot where Icarus had his fatal fall from grace?
Charlie is not in Greece to advise on the perilous state of the Greek economy, but is said to be hoping to arrange a friendly with Olympiacos. I wonder what the SFA, Uefa and FIFA would have to say about that.
Then Charlie boy had said on Sky that he would be flying to Switzerland to speak to UEFA representatives about renegotiating the debt he has inherited.
Some find it strange that he is flying around Europe when perhaps there is more vital work to be done closer to home and Brechin where a Ramsden’s Cup is scheduled for July 28th.
Some speculate he is keen to avoid the environs around Hampden just at this moment, because one question is asked of him again and again.
“Mr Green, who are the individuals who make up Blue Pitch, the consortium that have around 24% of Sevco? Would you like to name each member please?”
It is said until this question is answered, along with other loose ends, the SFA are prepared to play hardball and not allow NewCo to play football.
On the issue of travelling. Would any of the NewCo hierarchy have any trouble gaining access to the United States of America? Immigration rules are ultra-tight and any improprieties in the distant past can sometimes cause problems Stateside.
This new club is behaving as if they had a licence to play professional football in Scotland yet they don’t.
There are several excellent reasons why, as things stand at present, Sevco should not be granted that authorisation.
Of course, this should not just concern those on the Mount Florida acropolis.
Someone should go tell the Spartans.
redversbodkin
my sentiments exactly,& well said AUSSIE 101.the whole situation is corrupt right to the core, if i lived in Scotland i would not attend any games which fall under the S F A’S JURISDICTION, letting the transfer ban commence on SEPT 1st, really what a joke,everyone on the respective boards in scottish football should resign including Mr Longmuir,after all he did take the ‘SOUP’ & now the fiasco with” THE TAINTED TITLES” & the antics of the rangers newco manager, really disgarceful & disgusting, time for CELTIC FC to do the right thing LEAVE
July 23, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Aussie101
I recall a discussion in a lecturer @ Glasgow Uni, when I was studying (a good few years ago now), there was a Guest Speaker an eminent QC from Edinburgh (no less), he made the comment for debate (which raged on for some time);
“There may well be in polite society Law & Justice but there is not always justice in law all too often too many people confuse them to be one and the same. In equal consideration do those in polite society (being those with more power and money), have a greater chance of being shown protection in Law__ and those in less polite society (being those with little power and limited finances), less protected by what would be justice?”
I have been following the whole “Rangers FC Demise” as best possible from Australia and to be honest, I have long-passed any interest in the actual football aspect to it, more in respect to the “law” as it unfolds. In my opinion there does not appear to be any due diligence, laws or legislation being followed by anyone at this time – I can only live in hope that the SPL, SFA, FIFA, Strathclyde Police (on behalf of the Procurator Fiscal), HMRC, Tax Tribunal or someone steps up and calls a skidding-halt to all this manipulation, theory and inaccuracies and begin to apply regulations, directive principles and legislation____it is there in clear bold print for everyone to see!!!
Why are so many, doing so little, whilst demanding so much, with little to show for it, after all of these months of deliberation?
There is a distinct possibility that those in “polite society” in terms of power and money may walk away from this with little to pay but a minimal fine, a dent in their reputation and a lingering shadow they were given a “get out of jail card” and that will truly be Scotland’s shame just as OJ Simpson is America’s shame.
July 23, 2012 at 2:28 am
Ben mcginlay
Well said sir. I think everyone must be wondering what is going on apart from the MSM in Scotland. They should be ashamed of themselves for not asking probing questions.
July 23, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Michael
Crisis indeed Phil,
Icarus did fall from the sky, but not even Mason and the arrogants
can overcome such perilous begging and pleading for the punishment to stop.
They have to appear in the Ramsden’s Cup (Fish Supper Special) but Mr Greenwill never be welcomed for a pay day loan never mind being allowed to sell the “Big Issue” outside UEFA HQ.
Medussa rears her ugly head as her asp’s try to intimidate all that dare to challenge the powers of darkness, they thought the Trojan Horse delivered by Mr Whyte was their saviour only to be filled with deceit.
The Greek economy wants out of the “euro” but Rangers are already out of the EURO for 3 years and look at the state they are in. A greek tragedy or farce either way they cannot arrange a game with OlympiARGOS because they have to input the product code (SFA reg’ no.) which they don’t have, then pay by cash or credit card,air miles cards not accepted.
They will only be permitted onto American soil in Guantanamo bay where the suitably arranged attire will make the feel at home (orange boiler suits).
Like in Greek mythology they find themselves in a labyrinth but the Minotaur, a mythical creature that was half man and half bull-(sh*t), unfortunately Mr Green forgot to keep hold of the thread which was his only path out.
Any dealings will not take place on the the Mount Florida acropolis but Glasgow’s Acropolis. R.I.P
July 22, 2012 at 8:35 pm
Ben mcginlay
I wish someone from FIFA would explain to Sally McCoist and Charles Green that the processes required for punishment to be given to Newco have to be adhered to as it would be with every other club. McCoist quoted on sky sports said ‘we have been punished enough, already had 10 point deduction,relegated to the 3 division,£160k fine, lost their place in Europe and the transfer embargo which starts in September. 1.10 point deduction is automatic for going into administration. 2. not relegated, lost SPL status due to liquidation and starting off as a Newco. 3. £160k fine is along with transfer embargo. 4. Not a punishment either, Newco can’t qualify as club has to play in their own leagues for 3 year(an international rule). 5. Transfer embargo, only kicks in at start of September, so gives them time to get fresh faces in before start of league. The ‘mob’ have been getting the breaks right from the very start and they know it. FIFA should get involved in this fiasco now and let everyone know what the rules are including our beloved MSM. It should be printed in bold and made very clear to Sally that Rangers are dead, they won’t bounce back, but are a new club and have to start at the bottom and is not a punishment( they were even allowed to attain the oldco license, another break, is it legal ?). I do NOT trust any of our SFA and SPL delegates or anyone from our so called tabloid press. If I had my way I would have hammered them and made an example of them from the very start without votes. The whole thing has made our game a joke(all their fault). No club is bigger than the game itself.. Get them tae F##k now.
July 22, 2012 at 7:10 pm
The Wallace
The little hypocrite, fat Sally, he with more faces than the toonha’ clock ( challenge that if you can Mason Boyne, sorry Mason Walker), is stamping is foot and telling everyone what he is going to accept and what he is not going to accept, re stripping of illegally obtained trophies etc. He is the manager of a team, who do not even have a proper name yet, who through solely their own fault fell foul of the rules and are lucky to be where they are and are for the moment are allowed to trade football players (another gerrymandered scandal) . He is only the manager and his opinion on this is not within his remit, again he is out to cause more upset and anger. An attribute that goes along with sporting integrity is decorum and that little demagogue has neither. And if that clown comes on in his defence and says he was one of Tommy Burns coffin bearers, I will erupt. In reality that little snotter is not even good enough to clean Tommy’s boots. McCoist is out to keep the aggression and bigotry alive, still no proper apologies for the damage caused to Scottish football or for the amount of money they have cost Scottish football. This man is dangerous and he will only hinder attempts at proper redress and conciliation that are needed at the moment. He was self promoting poaching opportunist who lived of Mark Hately when he played and he is no less a talentless mouthy irritation now.
July 22, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Frankier
William Davidson – Does it not occur to you that “Man In The Know” of the SCO was probably spot on in his reporting of that particular game? To describe him as a bigot because he told the truth is a bigoted statement by you. After all, the description he gave of the behaviour of the (now defunct) rangers’ fans of that period is exactly the same as their behaviour has been in all the years since. That article could have been written on a weekly basis ever since it first appeared in the Scottish Catholic Observer, which would have been the last paper to publish an article like that at the time if it hadn’t been true. I will only mention two places of many; Barcelona and Manchester.
July 22, 2012 at 2:46 pm
redversbodkin
Let the attitudes of Mc coist ,s f a, s p l , s f l, be a warning to all decent football & non _football fans alike, the game in Scotland WILL NEVER EVER RECOVER, therefore it is time for Celtic Fc to announce the NUCLEAR OPTION,leave,give the mandatory notice and get out of the filthiest,scum ridden league in football WE MUST BE rid of this cancer on the body of Scottish football, I.E. GLASGOW RANGERS FC, MR REGAN please do it now or their will be no game left to support
July 22, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Jim Wood
Sleekit Sally at it again.
“I won’t accept title stripping… We’ve been punished enough.”
I paraphrase the Sleekit one. It is this crap about punishment when every one knows they haven’t been punished yet. If the SFA punish them like this transfer ban, which is delayed until they buy a squad for two years promotion, they will be getting away with all of it. They have a proven track record within the SFA of cheating for the benefit of Oldco and Newco.
What should we expect from an organisation with masonic symbolism on it’s logo-namely the lion rampant “hidden in plain sight.” Oh yeah and Campbell “What school did you go to.” Ogilvie as president.
All we want is some justice. We are a long way further on that road to justice than we thought we would be after years of systematic institutional cheating, but not because of anything the SFA/SPL/SFL have done , rather inspite of what they have done.
July 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Ben mcginlay
Totally agree mate. As I said in the past, the party line from all Huns are that they have been punished enough. No mention of the votes for SPL and SFL division 1 status to try and bend the rules to suit them, when the rules state that they should have applied to enter the bottom tier. And the only reason they were allowed to do that is because they inherited the oldco license, another rule bender, although they inherited oldco football debts and so called punishment. Basically they are still getting away scot free as the transfer embargo doesn’t kick in till september which gives them, as you say enough opportunity to get a few players on a couple of years contract to guarantee to quickly move up the divisions. So even now they are still getting help although being seen to be punished. You really could not make it up. I fear we will never rid of them. And in 5 years time it will be as if nothing has happened. Rangers, Ibrox, bigot songs, the dreaded ‘old firm’ tag. Hate this whole episode, we really are second class citizens in the best wee country in the world( my fekin arse). At least we still have dignity, a word that should never be in the same sentence when the ‘mob’ are mentioned.
July 21, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Frankier
Brian Jamieson – It’s good to read comments like yours. There are well over 6,000 non-catholics who attend Celtic Park at every game but this information is aleays kept under wraps as it would spoil the “sectarian” image the media have propogated regarding the Celtic support.
July 21, 2012 at 1:07 pm
redversbodkin
aw’ naw, rangers in the 3rd DIV,i I can just hear them at IBROX ” it’s orange & blue get yur irn bru
July 20, 2012 at 2:45 pm
The Wallace
Is Ms Hart about??
Have you seen Daily Record 20/07/12 about the Sheridan case. Forget about the ins and outs of the case itself, but Mrs Sheridan was treated abysmally whilst helping (or not) Police with their enquiries. I do hope you watched the leaked video of her interview and heard the comments therein. Her interviewer, a bigoted animal, Stuart Harkness was a detective sergeant at the time. Now go to article “If your neighbour buys a posh car”, you will see this thug is now a detective inspector. These are the kind of people I am absolutely terrified of in an independent Scotland. I have dealt with the knuckle draggers all my life, their easily bamboozled, but these chaps chill me to the core, truly SS (I don’t mean social security) or gestapo material.
The real reason I am on is to say I heart goes out to Claudio Reyna and his family over the loss of their teenage lad. As many will undoubtedly be saying it certainly puts things into their proper perspective.
July 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Brian Jamieson
As a protestant I have supported Celtic for over 60 years but in the area I live it would be foolish to let anyone know. I can well understand what goes on in Scotland because here in Northern Ireland we have a club in dark blue who have followed the same practices as the Gers for years. I really enjoy your comments Phil, keep up the good work!
July 20, 2012 at 11:37 am
BRUCE BROCKETT
i hear from a good source that ticketus own ibrox not mr.green
maybe you could find out more. would love to have this confirmed..
thanks
BRUCE
July 20, 2012 at 7:54 am
Michael
You could be correct int he fact that Ticketus do own Ibrox on three separate occasions Ticketus have stated:
Notes to Editors
Ticketus first entered a ticket purchase agreement with Rangers Football Club in 2009 when the Club was owned by Sir David Murray. The agreement was for Ticketus to purchase some of the Club’s future season tickets in advance at a discounted price, which the Club would then resell at the intended sale price.
Ticketus’ agreement is with Rangers Football Club plc as the entity which originally owned the tickets.
9 March 2012 Statement on Rangers Football Club
“We believe that the Blue Knights understand very clearly what needs to be done to stabilise the Club, and represent the most attractive long-term solution to Rangers’ financial situation. We are therefore backing their bid and will be an active partner, contributing to a successful outcome. We believe working alongside the Blue Knights and fans’ representatives offers the best chance of the Club surviving and becoming a viable business.”
23 March 2012 Statement Response to court ruling
The Court has made it clear today that the Ticketus contract cannot be breached unless there is substantial evidence that by doing so the Administrators are able to significantly improve returns for creditors and improve the chance of returning the Club to a going concern.
These are statements from Ticketus and with 24% undeclared all things point to them and I would imagine if Mr Green if he is “going forward” (his catchphrase) he is keeping Ticketus quiet for the moment.
July 23, 2012 at 11:09 am
Ralf
Very sad news tonight about former Rangers player Claudio Reyna’s son who was only 13 and died of cancer, hope the footballing community in Scotland can offer some kind of support to family and friends of the young lad.
July 20, 2012 at 12:14 am
PaulMc
It’s a terrible tragedy, my heart goes out to them. Hopefully they’ll get all the support and comfort to help them through this.
July 20, 2012 at 6:38 pm
JimBhoy
So sad, haven’t got words to describe how I would feel if I lost any of mine…. God rest his soul.. Reyna was always one who had dignity.
July 21, 2012 at 11:00 am
redversbodkin
loOks as though mr charles green has taken a “CLAM CHOWDER”
July 19, 2012 at 11:40 pm
Andybhoy
Who owns ibrox,one friendly at Murray park another one lined up away from “home”,,,it would make sense to have a home game would it not,,,hmmm
July 19, 2012 at 5:59 pm
tom dolan
“up to their knees in Elgin mud” had to share that with you all…….love it…:))
July 19, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Aussie101
Firstly I have to say, I have read your page for a few months now without comment (as most of what I would say), has been said by others!! Despite living in Australia (these past 10yrs), I was born in Glasgow, went to school and University in Glasgow and lifelong Celtic FC fan; this is also my first posting but I hope not my last.
“On the issue of travelling. Would any of the NewCo hierarchy have any trouble gaining access to the United States of America? Immigration rules are ultra-tight and any improprieties in the distant past can sometimes cause problems Stateside.” By: Phil Mac Giolla Bhain (published July 18th, 2012 at 12:50 pm)
I read this with interest and I thought I would be clever and sent out an email to my friends who live/work in the USA and I included some of my Celtic FC supporting friends too (one who works in Brussels) sent me the response below with the cryptic message of “everyone in the world can be associated by three people and proof will come when charges are made”. I tried to get further information to the comment but at this stage despite best attempts I have failed but I do wonder if this in any way (or stretch of the imagination), could lead back to anyone within a certain consortium – surely not?
Interpol {18 July 2012}
Arrests across Asia in INTERPOL-led operation targeting illegal soccer gambling networks
LYON, France – Nearly 300 people have been arrested in an INTERPOL coordinated operation run ahead of and throughout the EURO 2012 championships targeting illegal soccer gambling networks across Asia.
During the two-month long operation, law enforcement officers across China (including Hong Kong and Macau), Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Vietnam carried out more than 200 raids on illegal gambling dens, estimated to have handled around USD 85 million worth of bets.
Conducted between 1 May and 1 July, Operation SOGA IV – short for soccer gambling – was the fourth action of its type coordinated by INTERPOL and was timed to coincide with the end of major national football leagues across Europe, and the UEFA championships in addition to EURO 2012.
“This latest SOGA operation has again underlined the results which can be achieved through national and international police cooperation in breaking up illegal gambling dens and the criminal networks behind them,” said Crusade Yau, Head of the Organized Crime Branch with INTERPOL’s Drugs and Criminal Organizations unit which coordinated the operation.
SOGA IV brought together officers from INTERPOL National Central Bureaus and other law enforcement agencies in the participating countries in a series of meetings, including the INTERPOL Asia Pacific Expert Group on Organized crime and operational training workshops.
In total, the combined four SOGA operations have resulted in more than 7,000 arrests, the closure of illegal gambling dens which handled more than USD 2 billion worth of bets and the seizure of nearly USD 27 million in cash.
July 19, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Agent One
Hi All
Well here we are again..it can only happen in this Saga, Charlie and The Bhoys goes AWOL ,I phoned my Friends in Greece to see if they could check if a Charles Green was Meeting at Their club OLYMPIAKOS they came back with the answer of, WHO ?.. ,So WHERE is Agent Green.has he done a runner, as I see they are unaware of any meeting with our man Green at UEFA.
Should he not be in the Heart of the talks with the SFA, are they not in need of a Licence to become a Football team,indeed they are ,because without it they really have nothing, and all the running about in the world to set up Glamour Matches will prove meaningless without one.
As for the new Investors,have you had a look at there website Mr Mather I have no doubt is a fine man but whats he going to bring to the party other than Money,they look after young players,I think i counted 5 of them, all with other clubs and 1 cricket player..Oh and Neville Southall and thats about it,so unless they plan in moving the players to WHOEVER FC and the Cricketer to Midfield instead of Midwicket then thats it ,ah wait maybe 174 year old Neville might be the answer in Goal, ( Sorry Neville I know your not that old).
Anyway if you see Charlie ..Let us Know.
To be Continued
Agent One
July 19, 2012 at 11:56 am
James, Glasgow
Had a great conversation with my 31 year-old nephew today. He thinks he’s going to wake up soon, such is his disbelief at their state. Told him he sounded like his late Granda, my Da. How I wish he was here to witness current events and hope he’s boring my ma to death up there, telling her they’ve finally got what they deserve. Go easy on him, Ma, he put up with a lot in his 70 odd years as a Celt and deserves to milk this !
July 19, 2012 at 10:57 am
Jim Wood
Good post sir. We are all feeling the same. I think all our wee Ma’s and Grannies will be having a wee smile to themselves as they stir the big pot full of porridge up stairs . They wouldn’t want to let us see how pleased they are.
But, “hey Ma we always knew how much it meant to you as well.” It was always there only different if you know what I mean.
Keep at the book Phil whilst you are keeping at them.
July 19, 2012 at 2:20 pm
Ralf
Think you’ll find that money talks, the Newco will be the richest club in the lower divisions, they’ll buy themselves out of the lower leagues, and shoot up to the SPL again.
July 19, 2012 at 9:36 am
Ben mcginlay
What money ? There is none, I think you will find they will struggle to survive due to lack of funds.
July 19, 2012 at 5:09 pm
joe burt
“On the Rangers terracing on Saturday there was congregated a gang, thousands strong, including the dregs and scourings of filthy slumdom, unwashed yahoos, jailbirds nighthawks, won’t works, burro-barnacles and pavement pirates, all, or nearly all, in the scarecrow stage of verminous trampdom. This ragged army of insanitary pests was lavishly provided with orange and blue remnants…. Practically without cessation, the vagabond scum kept up a strident howl of the “Boyne Water” chorus. Nothing so bestially ignorant has ever been witnessed, even in the wildest exhibitions of Glasgow Orange bigotry……”The reporter went on to describe the assembled throng of Celtic fans.
“These complaints do not apply to the Celtic brake-clubs (supporters’ clubs) whose members, reasonable sentient human beings, are models of decorum and possess official testimonials to their blameless behaviour…..They are fond of singing, and to this no-one can reasonably object. On Saturday, the boys sang to their heart’s content. They gave us so many rousing choruses. “Hail Glorious St. Patrick”, “God Save Ireland”, “Slievenamon” “The Soldier’s Song”…. When Cassidy’s goal made victory sure, it was fine to hear the massed thousands at the western end of the Ibrox oval chanting thunderously “On Erin’s Green Valleys’..”
Man in the Know” from the 1920′s Glasgow Observer in one of his reports relating to an Old Firm game in 1924, (1924)
Kind of sums us and them up doesnt it 90 years on.
July 19, 2012 at 6:23 am
joe burt
Mason Walker”Is that a name or pass time”
I can only assume you didnt take the time to read the quote.If you had you would have seen nothing has changed within Ibrox in over 90 years.We have moved on and yes we do have a minoroty who still hang onto the past.But think on this Celtic and our fans are welcomed all over Europe,they are almost always first call for testimonials etc.
If you look back at what Ian Archer said about Rangers
(oldco)”Rangers are a permanant embarassment and occasional disgrace”I can go on and on.
But as my old granny used to say your kind are more to be pitied than laughed at.
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July 19, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Ben mcginlay
Oh dear masonwalker, your identity says it all really. You must be seeking the truth if you are monitoring this website. The truth hurts doesn’t it. The more you accept it the better it would be, but that is if you are not a bigot who is stuck in the dark ages, unlike Mr Burt who is just comparing the differences between the two sets of fans from 90 year ago, and going by the last 6 month especially, absolutely nothing has changed.
July 19, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Jim Wood
Mr. Charitable gentleman’s club Walker,
No way near as bad as the tripe you lot have lived in that period.
Sad that even at this stage of your clubs demise you would be wasting your time on what we think. Pity you guys didn’t read this site a year or more ago and then who knows… , wait a minute forget that it makes the whole thing so much more fun knowing that if you had only listened to a Fenian from Donegal you might still have a club rather than the world-wide joke that you now are.
I am laughing so much at you right now and so are the rest of us.
Do not forget what the pillars of the establishment were feeding you lot at the time.COS with their inflammatory anti Irish sentiments. No dogs No Irish. What school did you go to?You are part of a reactionary element in Scottish society that is the real cause of all your woes and I love the fact that you are trawling our sites and that you are hurting so much.
Phil thanks for allowing both of these messages. Made my day Mr. MW.
July 19, 2012 at 5:22 pm
PaulMc
“Us lot”? Amusing.
He is quoting a newspaper report from the early part of the 20th century. The Celtic Brake clubs were very different from today’s supporter’s clubs and associations. They were usually founded upon a strict adherence to temperance and they behaved very differently from modern fans.
What the piece does illustrate is that Celtic and Rangers attracted VERY different types of people. We couldn’t quite live up to their standards now, certainly, the publican in my local would attest to that. Contemporary accounts of fans of Celtic’s recently liquidated old rivals show that little changed with them, as I’m sure the people of Manchester will no doubt agree.
July 19, 2012 at 6:51 pm
PaulMc
Awww, thank you for that early 60′s quotation. It illustrates fans of the liquidated club perfectly.
July 20, 2012 at 1:28 am
Ben mcginlay
Oh Mr masonwalker, what book did you steal that quote from. It is so easy to write words and make them sound plausible. But we are talking attitudes and lifestyles and how other people perceive this from the outside looking in. And generally, as Mr Burt puts it Huns are seen as aggressive, argumentative and have an attitude of do what they like, when they like without thinking or caring of the consequences(Manchester for one). Celtic fans in general ingratiate themselves to strangers and are more amiable and fun. And know that they represent their club and don’t want to tarnish the good name that Celtic and their supporters have built up over the years. That is the big difference.We care about our reputation. So wax lyrical all you want, your club is dead and you and all your crowds attitude is mostly to blame for your astronomical demise.
July 20, 2012 at 6:29 am
Jim Wood
Oh the irony MR MW,
A “We are the people “fan and admirer of secretive powers who attempt to control the world, Quoting Arendt.
It is like Stalin using the human rights convention to justify the gulags.
Time to trot on methinks MR. MW.
July 20, 2012 at 7:28 am
SamBrowneBelt
… to Hellas in a handcart
July 19, 2012 at 12:31 am
Walter Harvey
Great stuff as always Phil…..I was intrigued by the part where you mention that would some of those involved with Mr Green gain access to the USA…would this infer that they have unsavory backgrounds? I have heard unsubstantiated rumours ( as yet) that Sevco wont be playing any football this season and that there is yet another scandal of earthquake proportions about to come out of ibrokes!!! Have you heard anything to this effect? Hail hail
July 18, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Dal
Scotland is a happier place already. The lost tribe are a bit like Attila’s mob, they’re simply dissapearing from history. Invariably that’s what happens to people who make Nazi salutes and snarl like neolithic man.
July 18, 2012 at 8:39 pm
beeegajay
My head is awash with thoughts on ‘what next?’ Only a well written book by a top expert with a finger on the pulse can sort this out… Shoorely
“Beware of Greeks bearing gifts” – so who are the Blue Pitch people and why should the SPL allow that particular wooden horse anywhere near the leagues when a known quantity (ie Spartans) are patiently awaiting their opportunity to move up in the world. Rangers have falling (on their heads). It’s all breaking the news ever so gently, NO you can’t play in the SPL, NO you can’t have your old players back, NO you have to go to the bottom of the league. NO you can’t play in your old strip. NO you can’t play any friendlies or competitive games until you have a license. NO-one likes you and no-one cares. No you can’t use an old debenture as a Tesco clubcard….
July 18, 2012 at 8:28 pm
cmh64
Brilliant title !
July 18, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Ipswich Bhoy
Strangely I’d prefer the sanctions to die with the old club and an emphasis made on the fact that this is a brand new entity with no history entering the league. 43-0 We welcome the chase!
July 18, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Sligo Tim
heard that they c;nt play friendlys as they have not got licence, so could last nights game against Airdrie Utd bring more grief and trouble????
July 18, 2012 at 7:25 pm
ladybhoys
Well done again phil keep at the scum until
the the whole world knows what a team of
Cheating bigoted shit we are dealing with
last year in the USA I was telling a guy about
It and he could not believe it 2011 and me
Being white
God bless you phil for what your dolng HAIL HAIL
July 18, 2012 at 6:58 pm
The Wallace
Again another case of you could not make it up.
A Nottingham based sports firm has, according to BBC Sports report, invested just over £1,000,000 for 10% share in Sevco. This is for involvement with youth development at Murray Park. The names of the owners of said NOTTINGHAM company; Craig Mather (nothing odd about that), but his partner is Guy Gisbourne. Is the Sheriff involved or are there more Robbin’ Hoods sniffing around for a piece of the pie.
Craig seemingly had a chat with the regulars in the Louden last night, you need an apron just to buy a pint in there. This is truly the story that just keeps giving. Guy Gisbourne of Nottingham, ye just cannae make it up,
Hail, Hail.
July 18, 2012 at 6:54 pm
Jim Wood
It does leave you wondering what, if anything, they have to hide? It is really easy for Mr Green and the rest of his club to put this issue aside once and for all, open up, disclose and then let us all get on with it.
Phil if it falls apart at this stage I think they will have nowhere to go. In this context I find it incredible that they would not do as asked (by the SFA,)unless there is a big question mark against these identities, one so big that they do not wish disclosure at this juncture.
Is it possible that they themselves do not know? Or is it that the blessed Craig or Ticketus (as speculated elsewhere)are the real backers and are hiding behind Mr Green
But lest we forget this is all just picking over the bones. The best The Rangers fc can hope for is div 3 and no Europe not a bad outcome and this is before the punishment starts.
Thanks for a great post Phil and keep at them.
July 18, 2012 at 5:06 pm
jonny
PHil
I must admit my first thought when I heard he was not attending the Hampden meeting was the same as yours .
I said that the SFA had better get answers before they allow sevco any licence ,the ragers fans will go tonto if the SFA refuse sevco as they have aimed their anger throughout this shambles at the wrong people ,so I can’t see this being any different .
If I were in the SFA I would make sure the building insurance was up to date .
If the SFA refuse to give sevco a licence surely that would be the end for triggers broom fc
July 18, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Dhougal
BrillPhil ,the shambles just goes on . Only ,The Govan mob could arrange a game ,to raise funds, against one o the poorest countries on the planet ! Every time i read a story about them ,The Looney Tunes theme pops into my head just at the end .THATS ALL FOLKS !!
July 18, 2012 at 4:18 pm
tambutnotbam
Charlie-boy and Sevco seem to be getting along swimmingly with both the SFA and the SPL, its then maybe just as well we have the Law Lords weighing in and keeping that triumvirate in check.
22-6-12 Lord Hodge warns Duff and Phelps that they MUST not sign off on their administration process until they have shown him clear evidence that they acted lawfully and not under a conflict of interest during that process.
Duff and Phelps immediately responded they would be delighted as it would also give them the chance to clear their name after the allegations made against them in the BBC documentary — The Men Who Sold The Jerseys — and would also allow them time to consider taking legal action against the Beeb.
A 3 weeks time scale was considered ample time to furnish Lord Hodge with that crucial evidence.
Their 3 weeks past last Friday and so far Duff and Phelps have done neither.
Unable or unwilling to provide Lord Hodge then Charlie-boy cannot be considered to be owner of anything as a new Administrator will have to be appointed which also prevents BDO commencing their liquidation duties.
Why under these circumstances was Charlie-boy allowed near any negotiating table never mind centre stage and even sometimes being more aware what was going on via leaked e-mails than some other club chairmen ?
I contend that right now and until Lord Hodges demands are met and satisfied by Duff and Phelps then Charlie-boy owns nothing of exRangers assets.
July 18, 2012 at 4:06 pm
John Collins
Nail on the head as usual. Has a property / asset company ever had such media attention? MSM should concern themselves with Sevco “IF” they ever become a football club…
July 18, 2012 at 4:03 pm
tambutnotbam
The Harry Ramsden Cup is being sponsored to the effect that if Sevco win (if allowed to register in the first place) then Harry Ramsdens has said he`ll lay on fish supper teas for the winner.
Apparently Sevcos manager JesterCoist al”ready” throwing his considerable weight round has demanded that if Sevco win then he wants his fish supper replaced with a double-pie supper `n a bottle of Irn Bru………… lol.
July 18, 2012 at 3:39 pm
tambutnotbam
Straight to the point but jocular with it Phil, well done.
I have a couple of issues.
Lord Glennie ruled when asked by Duff and Phelps and Charlie-boy that the SFA would be acting illegally if they tried to enforce that transfer embargo and as a consequence sent it straight back to the SFA to sort it out.
Recent reports suggest the SFA want to ignore Lord Glennies ruling and go ahead and serve down that punishment for what some say is a cop out or even a convenience.
Can the SFA flagrantly break the law on a whim Phil ?
Would Lord Glennie not rage at being asked in the first place to make a ruling then find that the SFA want to simply disregard it ?
July 18, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Robertg
The opinion essentially means that should Sevco wish to they can refuse to accept that punishment, as it isn’t on the list of available punishments. Should both parties (the league and Sevco Juniors) agree however that it is acceptable they can shake hands an move on.
The opinion means though that if Sevco Juniors choose to enforce it, the punishment must be one of those specified. Since the logic behind the ban was “we can’t possibly just give you the less serious punishment, so we’ll try to think up something meaningful but not an outright ban and cut you a break here), the initial decision seems to have ruled out the option of the lesser punishment and Sevco Juniors may have sentenced themselves to death. Again.
Sorry. Need to go and change my incontinence pants. Laughing that much here.
hail hail.
July 19, 2012 at 3:02 pm
Emeraldbhoy
Spot on again Phil. Lots to come from this yet! Just keep stating the obvious. Well written and nice innuendo on the Greek theme. Could end up a tragedy!!
Who are Blue Pitch?! We demand to know!! Couldnt possibly include our hero formerly known as Craigy!!
July 18, 2012 at 3:30 pm
Celtic Rebel
They have Kelty Hearts, Beith Juniors and Hawick Royal Albert lined up,we have Ajax,Inter Milan and Real Madrid lined up…..ha ha ha,he he he,ho ho ho,feels like Christmas every day now,’watch out for that ice Mr Green.’
July 18, 2012 at 3:28 pm
whale oil beef hooked
Great article Phil.. Curious about the USA immigration point though – you tease!
There appear to be multiple clear and present dangers of Sevco failure. I honestly can’t see it working, can you? (Remember even ex-Rangers fans believe you now, whether they admit it or not, so you could provide a great public service)
July 18, 2012 at 3:26 pm
The Wallace
Dear Kenny McCaffery,
make that Dan Brown instead of Ludlum and make it the Vatican Bank, tee hee hee.
July 18, 2012 at 3:22 pm
thomas cochrane
brilliaqnt as usual phil….this is much bigger than a lot of the younger fans realise…our fathers and our grandfathers just could not have dreamed that such a thing as this would happen to that mob.what with the size of the support they had….plus the help that they had from all stratas of society in “bonnie bigotland”
truth is i have pinch myself every now and again,just to make sure im not fekn dreaming..people power stopped them…..not just tims….but ordinery football supporters,the leangth and breadth of the country……many of them wouldnt lift an eyebrow to help us…but enough was enough.the stench of the corruption was just too much for all right thinking people…..life is GOOD….gbnl ..hh.mon the hoops ..yours in celtic..TC
July 18, 2012 at 3:22 pm
paddybhoy
Great post Phil
Nice to see you back on the case again(sneaking away from your book)
Yes ‘The Spartans’…I’ll stand by my total belief that Sevco won’t kick a ball for at least 12 months.
As you say ‘It’s The Story That Keeps On Giving’and long may it continue!
Keep up the great work and remember’Keep Digging Away’
Paddybhoy
July 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm
redversbodkin
hi phil, no need for the sugar in the coffee this fine morning in the Telephone City (80 odd degrees,as it is )this is sweet enough, tainted titles and other trophies to be STRIPPED wow, wonder how wattie will feel about that, phil do you think Mr C raig Whyte,is behind sevco, just a thought , your thoughts PLEASE ?
July 18, 2012 at 3:13 pm
The Wallace
We as Celtic fans and supporters have constantly made out to be paranoid and other things by the msm when we complained about refereeing etc., but we were right. So maybe Bummer Brown, although eccentrically incoherent and bordering on the deranged, may in fact have a better handle on who these people are (I do not wish to sound too much like fat Sally). The implication of your article seems there may be a possibility or at least a fear that Craig Whyte is involved somewhere along the line. Or am I way off beam,
Hail,Hail.
July 18, 2012 at 2:54 pm
JimBhoy
Green has the sfa and sfl by the cajoneys. The more he plays the waiting game the more pressure on Reagan… As suspected all along by many Green wants a quick exit after shouldering the blame for no football at Ibrox on someone else.. Litigation threats to D&P for a retainer payback, small fry if we are lead to believe he paid £2,5m for players registrations which on face value are worth zero unless by the goodwill of the player they stick around for a while and can be sold. He will be looking for this back soon also.
I can only think BDO are holding off as they make a water-tight case against D&P and the unconditional sale to Green even though they had higher offers elsewhere.
July 18, 2012 at 2:53 pm
jimbhoy
What’s have rangers and the drachma got in common? Nobody wants either of them!
July 18, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Sligo Tim
Rumour say;s dead by Friday
July 18, 2012 at 2:46 pm
tom dolan
welcome back from your book toiling Phil,personally i think the ugly mob are donald ducked,cannae see them carrying on.they are on the brink of civil war,nae leadership nae funds nae clue,as i said,Donald Ducked.
July 18, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Ben mcginlay
Excellent piece Phil. All these people should just go away and crawl under a snakes belly. The whole saga is just dragging on and on. Claim and counterclaim. Secrets and lies, lies and more lies, underhand tactics, cheating for god knows how many years. But through it all the people who run and are trying to buy out Sevco(bummer brown) and fans are showing an attitude of arrogance, aloofness and are blaming all and sundry for their situation. Shouting from rooftops about being punished too much and all because nobody likes them( boo fekin hoo). Guys like Derek Johnstone and Mark Hately don’t do them any favours with the everyone’s against us rants. And how Scottish Football can’t survive without the mighty bigoted ones. Let’s just see what happens. The world should and would be a better place without them.
July 18, 2012 at 2:33 pm
miki67
Aw,man….that is simply pure dead briliant!
Gaun yersel!
July 18, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Sconey
Great post Phil,
However it is a tad overshadowed by one of the best headlines I have seen for many a year.
More power to your keyboard.
Sconey
July 18, 2012 at 2:04 pm
John Sands
Brilliant As Always Phil,Yes It Is Strange That Mr G Is Flying All Over Europe Instead Of Trying To Get Things Sorted For Their Ramsdens Cup Game(..pmsl AT THE THOUGHT)..
July 18, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Pensionerbhoy
I could not agree more Phil. In the midst of all the stramash absolute integrity has still not been achieved. I find it difficult to accept that being refused a place in the S.P.L. and offered a place in the S.F.L. only in the 3rd meets the requisite criteria for unqualified integrity when the processes being proffered include rules and regulations being circumvented, overlooked or simply ignored in order to accommodate or facilitate (the chosen words of the representatives of the governing bodies of Scottish football) ‘newco Rangers’. For me the due process should apply to ANY applications to senior football and should be the only criteria with all its intrinsic conditions of suitability and financial history. If ‘newco Rangers’ were to rightly succeed in its application to play senior football in Scotland, then I would welcome the new club as wholeheartedly as I would any new applicant e.g. Spartans. The only reservation I would have is the ‘newco’ support. It would be a joy to have a new team with its disinfected, dedicated fans without the bigoted and sectarian baggage of the supporters of Rangers F.C.(IL). I genuinely live in hope but with not a great deal of faith though I am prepared to be charitable.
H H
July 18, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Kenny McCaffrey
Good post Phil – and candidate for best headline in the whole saga. Brilliant.
It is indeed a strange time to be galavanting across Europe when reports are that the SFA discussions are not going as smoothly as the ‘Sevgers’ guys seemed to anticipate – and time is very much of the essence.
Or are the two linked? Maybe Mr G is on a not-so-covert mission to get his own answers to ‘promised’ moneys? History shows that cash flows easily around countries in turmoil, and Greece would fit the bill by all accounts. And maybe he has some holdings, or backers who have holdings, in the famously discreet Swiss banks?
Maybe a bit too Robert Ludlum? Well, no one at Uefa seems to know he is coming, while Olympiacos? What? Why? If an arranged friendly is for financial benefit, surely the once-mighty Gers still have better European contacts than that (apologies to Olympiacos fans who can rightly state they are out of the Govan team’s league these days – and will be for the foreseeable future)?
What about mega-rich PSG, with its jacobite heritage? OK, a bit far-fetched, but better, I would argue, than a club stuck in an ongoing near-state of emergency.
And anyway, nothing would come as a surprise any more in this ongoing shambles.
Is Mr G even coming back? No, don’t go there…
July 18, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Christopher
Great as always Phil. Do you know what the Sevco/newco are planning to officially call their new club. I had heard that they wouldn’t be allowed to call them ,’The Rangers’ as this resembles too much the oldco name.
July 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm
Michael
Phil
Could you answer the following.
If Rangers do play the match on the 28th what strip would they wear and what name would they use?
As a Newco i was under the impression they couldnt use either of the previous.
Thanks
July 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm
john young
was it Marx that said ” to be in full control and happy we must own the means of our production. Mr green seems to own nothing.
therefore he cant be happy.
please get back to writing the book.
July 18, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Kieran Gallagher
whats the lastest on the BTC and the stripping of titles Phil…….
July 18, 2012 at 1:14 pm
pat
Phil, you may have already answered this but can say how certain you are that:
a) Titles will be stripped from the old Rangers
b) Punishments will be given for the cheating to ‘win’ said titles
c) Their name will be tarnished in the football world forever
July 18, 2012 at 1:08 pm
tallybhoy
Excellent, and amusing, as always Phil! Would like to know who is paying for Charlie’s jaunts around the Old World: is it perhaps the R(IL)FFF, the same ‘peepull’ who recently donated £500 in order that Sevco could buy towels in time for pre-season training for a football club that does not actually exist?! Do Ryanair fly to Greece?!
HH!!
July 18, 2012 at 1:08 pm
andrew murray
This plan of Mr Greens looks more like the plan that the big yank had all those months ago beore being threatened by the peeple to leave. Reading between the lines, it looks like if sevco want to play at ipox, train at muurray park, be called something that sounds like rangers and play in blue, they will be punished like they were rangers. If however newco wish to play somewhere else and are called Green Utd then they might just get treated like the newco they are! Ps have you seen a happy hun? No no!
July 18, 2012 at 1:05 pm
franco
They still percieve the notion of…..”doing as they please & sticking 2 fingers up too the rest of football”….keep calm n carry on attitude is wot got them in2 this shit….THEY WILL NEVER LEARN FROM PAST MISTAKES!!….by the way another enjoyable & informative read (as per usual:-)
July 18, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Gman 2112
Love it Phil-Spartans-Lol!!!
July 18, 2012 at 12:58 pm
PaulMc
” he was so pro-Celtic and anti-Rangers it was almost comical”
Did you know him? Or, I presume you have researched his writing? I’d be more than happy to read some evidence to support your claims of bias. Just point me to them.
July 22, 2012 at 2:06 am
Jim Wood
William
The man in the know was writing propaganda to the oppressed and down-trodden minority at one of the most appalling periods in the history of these isles. From that position of weakness he was disparaging about all things Oldco and gave vent to the frustration of a people in their place as second class citizens, unwanted, voiceless and with no-one prepared to give them a seat at the table.
He did so against an establishment which was far less benign than his wee partisan newspaper. Jobs, education, homes even safety were all on the side of the establishment and arrayed against the readers of man in the know. What else could a powerless man do but scream against this Goliath of bigotry and racism. That was his choice and he did so relentlessly.
It did have an impact. It became a cog in the gears that still turn in an attempt to gain justice. Along with education politics and eventually parity of prospects (I think around the 1970′s but can’t be sure.)
I wonder how many of the succulent lamb brigade will be seen in the same light in 90 years time. Sadly I think very few because a handshake always has trumped merit in this nation and I fear always will.
I have no knowledge of Linfield so cannot comment on this part of your statement however,in my opinion, propaganda is not just about statements made but is also about omission of context. If the same standards of omission have been applied to the Linfield statement as were apparent in your man in the know diatribe, I feel sure some-one more informed than I on this matter will likewise comment.
July 22, 2012 at 4:11 pm
JimBhoy
Celtic and proud…. Mixed family but no probs ever…
July 22, 2012 at 11:17 pm